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When did you learn Sevenseasocentrism?
I am a little curious Joe, does your wife know of your current fixation with such a strikingly handsome european hunk of man meat? If I didn't know any better I would think you had a crush on Sevenseas........ are you a stalker?
 

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I think people who don't know this sort of thing must have little value for knowledge/curiosity or live in a very uneducated population with horrible schools and no library.
Maybe bad schools or bad teachers, or ones with a different emphasis on what they think kids should learn. I don't think people who don't know basic astronomy (or didn't learn it as children) necessarily had a lack of curiosity though. Like, the place I grew up was very rough, without much adult supervision. Even if kids had questions, there weren't many adults around to spend time with them and answer those questions, and teachers weren't very involved with kids' lives. So that's probably a deprived circumstance, but I'm not sure how rare it is. Lots of substance abuse problems by the adults, split families, gangs, etc. I can see how basic astronomy doesn't get pushed to the forefront. So I suppose that's a failure of schools and families, but like I say, I don't know how rare it is, and I don't think it reflects on the kids. As they get older maybe they'll desire to learn it, but they'll have less context for it, or it may seem like less obvious knowledge since it wasn't part of their upbringing.
 

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Like, the place I grew up was very rough, without much adult supervision. Even if kids had questions, there weren't many adults around to spend time with them and answer those questions, and teachers weren't very involved with kids' lives. So that's probably a deprived circumstance, but I'm not sure how rare it is.
Sounds like my second possibility, very limited educational opportunities even for those who are curious. Very unfortunate.

But they will come to an age where they can go to a library if they want and find answers, or ask people who know. And it's not like pictures of the solar system aren't sometimes on the front of magazines, newspapers, in movies, etc. Maybe they were taught to not value knowledge or to be curious, but whatever the reason, if a person makes it to adulthood, and either doesn't wonder why the sun and moon move across the sky or doesn't bother to find out, then, for whatever reasons, they have issues. And no, I don't think it's all that rare, unfortunately.

Intelligence, knowledge, and intellectualism has so many negative connotations for so many people. "Don't want to be an upstart, do you? Don't want to act like you are better than other people, do you? Before you know it, you'll be reading that EEEvilution stuff." Even my own family encountered issues when people found out I went to a nice college. They chided them for paying for it, supposedly some people have talked about me behind my back that I think I'm better than them, or it's a waste since I'm not rich as a result. Note these were all people who never went to college themselves. Education/curiosity can hit a nerve with a lot of people.
 
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