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So I was taking a shower last night, and I see a brown recluse in the corner. Scared as hell, I jump out. I say to my dad "I have something to show you. You promise you won't kill it?" Of course he says he wouldn't. So I show him and he says we need to kill it. I told him you promised not to and I could take it outside with a broom or something. He said no because they are very poisonous. So we argue and eventually he gets the bug spray, knocks it down, takes a picture of it (That isnt pouring salt in the wound at all.), and then he flushes it down the drain. I know its "just a spider" but stilll... What do you think? Do you kill bugs when you see them?
 

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I understand how you feel. We had ants in the bathroom recently and my husband insisted on putting out ant bait to poison them. I don't like unnecessary killing of living things.<br><br>
I can see your dad's point of view though, about it being dangerous to handle a poisonous spider.
 

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They are very poisonous and if catching it without being bitten would've been difficult, I understand that killing may need to be an option. It's very unfortunate and I'm sorry. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I found a brown recluse in one of my cloth grocery bags once and was able to dump it outside safely. No, I try not to kill bugs when I see them. With non-poisonous spiders, I tend to leave them alone because I've had them jump at me in catching attempts. I'm allergic to the venom so if they continue to appear around me, I will catch and release. We also had ant issues on the kitchen floor but cinnamon and orange oil seemed to work for repelling them along with sweeping daily. My boyfriend, on the other hand, is more open to killing them unless I'm around and ask him not to. There was a big spider in the play room and he said he killed it because it got close to one of our rats. He didn't want our young rat to eat it or possibly be bitten by it.<br><br>
I'd love to learn how to deal with silverfish/centipedes because I also tend to leave them alone and remain a little creeped out until they leave. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> They're so quick, I'm not sure how to go about catching them. If there's anything that repels them, that would be awesome to know. *Consults google.*
 

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Wow, taking a picture of it sounds very over the top! Fortunately the woman who owns the house I live in does a great job of spraying so they don't enter the house, and the ones that do enter seem to be caught by my cats very quickly. Reminds me, I need to get some bug spray for this summer so I won't be tempted to hit mosquitoes. I figure the best solution is to keep them away from me as much as possible, for example by using bug spray instead of killing the ones that try to bite me.<br><br>
This morning I was at the gas station, there was an insect on the counter, and the guy at the cash register thought I was crazy for just brushing it away. If I didn't brush it away, surely someone would have killed it.
 

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I think he just showed you that you can't trust him. He shouldn't have promised that he wouldn't kill someone, not knowing who that someone was, and knowing it was going to be some sort of pest (otherwise you wouldn't have extracted the promise), if he wasn't prepared to follow that.<br><br>
Here's how to remove a brown recluse (or any) spider:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider#Domestic_variety_as_a_pest" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_r...iety_as_a_pest</a>
 

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Wow, taking a picture of it sounds very over the top!</div>
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Yeah what's up with the picture taking?
 

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I think he just showed you that you can't trust him. He shouldn't have promised that he wouldn't kill someone, not knowing who that someone was, and knowing it was going to be some sort of pest (otherwise you wouldn't have extracted the promise), if he wasn't prepared to follow that.</div>
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Yea, I would be more upset about being lied to. He shouldn't have said he wouldn't kill it.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Why didn't you tell him it was a brown recluse right off the bat?</div>
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On the other hand, I also agree that you probably should have told him what kind of spider it was. He probably felt like he made a promise he couldn't keep. I don't know what his personality's like, but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.<br><br>
Anyway, I'm sorry that happened to you. Sounds like it was a pretty cruddy situation.
 

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Are you sure it was a brown recluse? That's one of the most commonly wrongly identified spiders. Almost everyone claims they've seen one but they're called the brown recluse for a reason. They're very rarely seen by human eyes.
 

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I'm all for not killing bugs/spiders whenever possible, but a brown recluse is not to be f'ed with. If that really is what you found in your shower, then I would have flushed it too. No question.<br><br>
Yeah, it's kinda ****ty how the whole thing went down, but I don't blame your dad for killing it.
 

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I was sitting in a cafeteria once and saw a cool spider near this person I didn't know. Being dumb, I shouted, "oh what a cool spider." The person immediately killed it. I felt so guilty after that. It wasn't even poisonous. I've learned to keep my mouth shut since.
 

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Yeah, I think OP might have learned that if he sees some animal in the house whom he either finds interesting or wants to remove - a mouse, a spider, whoever - that he'd best keep it to himself and/or deal with it himself.<br><br>
I was at a gym once and a HUGE spider came out of someone's yoga mat - the spider was maybe 2 inches long and very thick - and the staff were willing to just remove him rather than kill him (I hope - I had to leave, but the staff person said that's what he would do).
 

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I was sitting in a cafeteria once and saw a cool spider near this person I didn't know. Being dumb, I shouted, "oh what a cool spider." The person immediately killed it. I felt so guilty after that. It wasn't even poisonous. I've learned to keep my mouth shut since.</div>
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I once saw a guy walk into a gas station with a grasshopper on his shoulder. He got in line, and the guy behind him slapped the first guy on the shoulder <i>hard</i>. He said something like, " Bugs scare me!" and kind of laughed. I was so mad. A grasshopper can't hurt you. What kind of idiot kills a <i>grasshopper</i> out of fear? And how rude is it to hit a complete stranger? I wish it had been on my shoulder, so I could have taken that guy to court for assaulting me. I don't think I've ever been so angry over someone killing a bug.
 

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Errh, so you're comparing a possibly poisonous spider with a mouse?
 

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sorry you're upset about this, but...<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Why didn't you tell him it was a brown recluse right off the bat?</div>
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On the other hand, I also agree that you probably should have told him what kind of spider it was. He probably felt like he made a promise he couldn't keep. I don't know what his personality's like, but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.</div>
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i think you should have told him up front what kind of a spider you thought it was before soliciting a promise from him that it sounds like you maybe knew he couldn't/wouldn't keep in the first place had he known what kind of spider it was.<br><br>
if a poisonous spider was anywhere near my (hypothetical) kid or myself, i would not hesitate to kill it immediately.<br><br>
that said, i will go out of my way to save every creature that walks the planet except for poisonous ones posing an immediate threat and cockroaches. this includes any centipedes i find in my house, but not scorpions, which i'll catch and take outside. don't figure. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">
 

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I once saw a guy walk into a gas station with a grasshopper on his shoulder. He got in line, and the guy behind him slapped the first guy on the shoulder <i>hard</i>. He said something like, " Bugs scare me!" and kind of laughed. I was so mad. A grasshopper can't hurt you. What kind of idiot kills a <i>grasshopper</i> out of fear? And how rude is it to hit a complete stranger? I wish it had been on my shoulder, so I could have taken that guy to court for assaulting me. I don't think I've ever been so angry over someone killing a bug.</div>
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omg. i'm pissed just reading this. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br>
that guy would have gotten a major verbal smackdown if it had been me.
 

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Errh, so you're comparing a possibly poisonous spider with a mouse?</div>
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Do mice carry diseases? (Yes, and sometimes fatal ones - like the hantavirus).<br><br>
What one can tell from this is that the dad is willing to kill a pest for whatever reason, despite a promise to his son that he won't, and that he can remove the animal instead.<br><br>
I don't know what the dad's criteria are. Do you? Maybe the dad doesn't even know. He didn't think it through before the promise though. But even if the criteria is only "<i>possibility</i> of causing harm," then yes, a mouse would qualify.
 

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Are you sure it was a brown recluse? That's one of the most commonly wrongly identified spiders. Almost everyone claims they've seen one but they're called the brown recluse for a reason. They're very rarely seen by human eyes.</div>
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I kind of doubt it was too. OP lives in Orlando, which is apparently not a common area for that spider to be, and there are other spiders which look like the brown recluse there.
 

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my dad's always done the catch and release thing with spiders and so have i even though spiders freak me out. however, if there was a brown recluse in my home i would not risk my life or my cats' lives by trying to catch it alive. i've done a lot of reading on venomous snakes and spiders around here so i won't misidentify something harmless as a threat.<br><br>
i'm not sure what you expected your dad to do. since you wanted him to promise not to kill it you must have thought that's what he'd do. if you're willing to handle a brown recluse or other venomous animal you should get it outside without saying anything to those who would kill it.
 

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I kind of doubt it was too. OP lives in Orlando, which is apparently not a common area for that spider to be, and there are other spiders which look like the brown recluse there.</div>
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Yeah. They're actually native to my home state and people often confuse common brown house spiders with them. I've actually seen one before, but only one. I've seen dozens or hundreds of common spiders. They don't look that much alike. The brown recluse is small, thin, pale - sometimes almost translucent. They avoid light, especially sunlight, and often live in very dark places like closets or attics.
 
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