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So my mom smokes, not inside just outside but I worry since she brings the smell in with her that it affects the rats, since we usually have issues with our rats having respiratory infections.. would it be harmful for them if she does this?
 

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Second-hand cigarette smoke is harmful to all living creatures. Whether it will make a SIGNIFICANT difference, I cannot say, but perhaps you ought to move the rats home to a different room, that's not right near the door to where your mother smokes, that way there is more of a buffer.
 

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I don't really have much advice since no one smokes here but I would assume it's bad. When I go to Vegas and come back with my clothes smelling like smoke my rats won't even come near me so I always change before I see them.
 

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If it's not second-hand smoke, then I don't see why it should be dangerous.
 

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Because I always have a problem with URIs (I have 3 rats who have chronic URI) plus smoke travels on clothes. Medicine isn't exactly cheap (60$ for both doxy and baytril) It isn't easy to give them meds, especially if they've been on it for a long time and are sick of the taste, even though they are both flavored. I tried sneaking it in food, now they either eat around the medicine or don't eat all of it.<br>
What really makes it unbearable is that I spend money for them to get better, only to have them drool it out and not actually take the medicine.
 

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Hi, I've owned rats for a few years now and I don't smoke so I can't answer your question about how they'd be affected.<br>
What I do know is that they have enough health issues as is, so I'd do everything you can to try and get a few more healthy months out of them.<br>
If it's at all possible I'd move them to a smoke free area of the house just in case.
 

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Hmm... I worry about this too. I don't smoke but I have friends that go outside, smoke and come back in and they do smell like smoke sometimes. Actual smoke would definitely be very harmful (as it even is to humans) but I'm not sure if the smell would be that harmful. I couldn't really say though... I definitely make my friends wash their hands if they're smokers and want to hold or touch my rats. I don't even like people petting my cat without washing their hands if they were just smoking.
 

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As for re-current respiratory infections, how many ratties do you have? How old are they? How long have they been having re-ocurring respiratory issues for? I'm guessing you've seen a vet? What did your vet think could be causing it? What type of bedding do you use? Pine & cedar is incredibly toxic and can cause severe respiratory issues for ratties. I use Aspen or Carefresh, my rats do well with both but some rats can be allergic to aspen, which could cause similar symptoms to a respiratory infection. Is your rat cage near any windows or drafts? Is it in a warm enough area? Are there any harsh cleaning chemicals being used in the house or incense being burned, etc. All things to consider with dealing with re-current respiratory issues. Rats are generally pretty prone to respiratory problems as it is, so I would try and do everything possible to keep them away from anything that could possible worsen their respiratory systems. They're tiny little critters and so they're pretty sensitive to even the smallest things.<br><br>
Another suggestion that has helped with my ratties for years is grapefruit seed extract (not grape seed, which I accidentally bought the first time lol). I add it to their water (careful not to put too much in though since its very bitter tasting) and it's a powerful natural anti-biotic. I've kicked tooth infections with that stuff. It shouldn't be used in place of vet meds though, if your ratty is still not getting better after a few days, he/she needs to see a vet asap).
 

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The particulates on clothing are also harmful, and I remember reading that they can be more harmful than the second hand smoke itself with regular exposure due to oxidation and what some of those chemicals break down into over time; I may be remembering incorrectly, however, and I don't have time to dig up a link so please take that with a grain of salt (perhaps somebody else will remember the study).
 

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If it's not second-hand smoke, then I don't see why it should be dangerous.</div>
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I think any smoke, directly, second-hand, even third hand is unhealthy for everything that breathes.
 
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