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(Article quoted here for brevity)<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html" target="_blank">http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">From the book, "Food Pets Die For: Shocking Facts About Pet Food." By Ann N. Martin. NewSage Press (1997)....<br><br><br><br>
..... companion animals from clinics, pounds, and shelters can and are being rendered and used as sources of protein in pet food. Dead-stock removal operations play a major role in the pet food industry. Dead animals, road kill that cannot be buried at roadside, and in some cases, zoo animals, are picked up by these dead stock operations. When an animal dies in the field or is killed due to illness or disability, the dead stock operators pick them up and truck them to the receiving plant. There the dead animal is salvaged for meat or, depending on the state of decomposition, delivered to a rendering plant. At the receiving plants, the animals of value are skinned and viscera removed. Hides of cattle and calves are sold for tanning. The usable meat is removed from the carcass, and covered in charcoal to prevent it from being used for human consumption. Then the meat is frozen, and sold as animal food, which includes pet food.<br><br><br><br>
The packages of this frozen meat must be clearly marked as "unfit for human consumption." The rest of the carcass and poorer quality products including viscera, fat, etcetera, are sent to the rendering facilities. Rendering plants are melting pots for all types of refuse. Restaurant grease and garbage; meats and baked goods long past the expiration dates from supermarkets (Styrofoam trays and shrink-wrap included); the entrails from dead stock removal operations, and the condemned and contaminated material from slaughterhouses. All of these are rendered.<br><br><br><br>
The slaughterhouses where cattle, pigs, goats, calves, sheep, poultry, and rabbits meet their fate, provide more fuel for rendering. After slaughter, heads, feet, skin, toenails, hair, feathers, carpal and tarsal joints, and mammary glands are removed. This material is sent to rendering. Animals who have died on their way to slaughter are rendered. Cancerous tissue or tumors and worm-infested organs are rendered. Injection sites, blood clots, bone splinters, or extraneous matter are rendered. Contaminated blood is rendered. Stomach and bowels are rendered. Contaminated material containing or having been treated with a substance not permitted by, or in any amount in excess of limits prescribed under the Food and Drug Act or the Environmental Protection Act. In other words, if a carcass contains high levels of drugs or pesticides this material is rendered.....<br><br><br><br>
...At the rendering plant, slaughterhouse material, restaurant and supermarket refuse, dead stock, road kill, and euthanized companion animals are dumped into huge containers. A machine slowly grinds the entire mess. After it is chipped or shredded, it is cooked at temperatures of between 220 degrees F. and 270 degrees F. (104.4 to 132.2 degrees C.) for twenty minutes to one hour. The grease or tallow rises to the top, where it is removed from the mixture. This is the source of animal fat in most pet foods. The remaining material, the raw, is then put into a press where the moisture is squeezed out. We now have meat and bone meal....<br><br><br><br>
The Association of American Feed Control Officials in its "Ingredient Definitions," describe meat meal as the rendered product from mammal tissue exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, hide, trimmings, manure, stomach, and rumen (the first stomach or the cud of a cud chewing animal) contents except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices. In an article written by David C. Cooke, "Animal Disposal: Fact and Fiction," Cooke noted, "Can you imagine trying to remove the hair and stomach contents from 600,000 tons of dog and cats prior to cooking them?" It would seem that either the Association of American Feed Control Officials definition of meat meal or meat and bone meal should be redefined or it needs to include a better description of "good factory practices."<br><br><br><br>
When 4-D animals are picked up and sent to these rendering facilities, you can be assured that the stomach contents are not removed. The blood is not drained nor are the horns and hooves removed. The only portion of the animal that might be removed is the hide and any meat that may be salvageable and not too diseased to be sold as raw pet food or livestock feed. The Minister of Agriculture in Quebec made it clear that companion animals are rendered completely.<br><br><br><br>
Pet Food Industry magazine states that a pet food manufacturer might reject rendered material for various reasons, including the presence of foreign material (metals, hair, plastic, rubber, glass), off odor, excessive feathers, hair or hog bristles, bone chunks, mold, chemical analysis out of specification, added blood, leather, or calcium carbonate, heavy metals, pesticide contamination, improper grind or bulk density, and insect infestation.<br><br><br><br>
Please note that this article states that the manufacturer might reject this material, not that it does reject this material.<br><br><br><br>
If the label on the pet food you purchase states that the product contains meat meal, or meat and bone meal, it is possible that it is comprised of all the materials listed above...<br><br><br><br>
We have covered the meat and poultry that can be used in commercial pet foods but according to the AAFCO there are a number of other sources that can make up the protein in these foods. As we venture down the road of these other sources, please be advised to proceed at your own risk if you have a weak stomach.<br><br><br><br>
Hydrolysed hair is a product prepared from clean hair treated by heat and pressure to produce a product suitable for animal feeding.<br><br><br><br>
Spray-dried animal blood is produced from clean, fresh animal blood, exclusive of all extraneous material such as hair, stomach belching (contents of stomach), and urine, except in such traces as might occur unavoidably in good factory practices.<br><br><br><br>
Dehydrated food-waste is any and all animal and vegetable produce picked up from basic food processing sources or institutions where food is processed. The produce shall be picked up daily or sufficiently often so that no decomposition is evident. With this ingredient, it seems that what you don't see won't hurt you.<br><br><br><br>
Dehydrated garbage is composed of artificially dried animal and vegetable waste collected sufficiently often that harmful decomposition has not set in and from which have been separated crockery, glass, metal, string, and similar materials.<br><br><br><br>
Dehydrated paunch products are composed of the contents of the rumen of slaughtered cattle, dehydrated at temperatures over 212 degrees F. (100 degrees C.) to a moisture content of 12 percent or less, such dehydration is designed to destroy any pathogenic bacteria.<br><br><br><br>
Dried poultry waste is a processed animal waste product composed primarily of processed ruminant excreta that has been artificially dehydrated to a moisture content not in excess of 15 percent. It shall contain not less than 12 percent crude protein, not more than 40 percent crude fiber, including straw, wood shavings and so on, and not more than 30 percent ash.<br><br><br><br>
Dried swine waste is a processed animal-waste product composed primarily of swine excreta that has been artificially dehydrated to a moisture content not in excess of 15 percent. It shall contain not less than 20 percent crude protein, not more than 35 percent crude fiber, including other material such as straw, woodshavings, or acceptable bedding materials, and not more than 20 percent ash.<br><br><br><br>
Undried processed animal waste product is composed of excreta, with or without the litter, from poultry, ruminants, or any other animal except humans, which may or may not include other feed ingredients, and which contains in excess of 15 percent feed ingredients, and which contains in excess of 15 percent moisture. It shall contain no more than 30 percent combined wood, woodshavings, litter, dirt, sand, rocks, and similar extraneous materials........<br><br><br><br>
...Fat is usually the second ingredient listed on the pet food labels. Fats can be sprayed directly on the food or mixed with the other ingredients. Fats give off a pungent odor that entices your pet to eat the garbage. These fats are sourced from restaurant grease. This oil is rancid and unfit for human consumption. One of the main sources of fat comes from the rendering plant. This is obtained from the tissues of mammals and/or poultry in the commercial process of rendering or extracting....<br><br><br><br>
...Fish is a source of protein. If you own a cat, just open a can of food that contains fish and watch kitty come running. The parts used are fish heads, tails, fins, bones, and viscera. R.L. Wysong, DVM, states that because the entire fish is not used it does not contain many of the fat soluble vitamins, minerals, and omega-3 fatty acids. If, however, the entire fish is used for pet food, oftentimes it is because the fish contains a high level of mercury or other toxin making it unfit for human consumption. Even fish that was canned for human consumption and that has sat on the shelf past the expiration date will be included. Tuna is used in many cat foods because of its strong odor, which cats find irresistible....<br><br><br><br>
...The pet food industry corrals this material, then mixes, cooks,dries and extrudes the stuff. (Extruding simply means it is pushed through a mold to form the different shapes and to make us think that these so called "chunks" are actually pieces of meat.) Dyes, additives, preservatives are routinely added and they can accumulate in the pet's body. According to the Animal Protection Institute of America newsletter, "Investigative Report on Pet Food, "Ethoxyquin (an antioxidant preservative), was found in dogs' livers and tissue months after it had been removed from their diet."<br><br><br><br><br></div>
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The thing about fish having a strong odor. As cats get older they often lose their sense of smell and eat less food unless it has a strong odor. I have noticed my cat eats more fish than the other flavors. I though it might be nice to feed her healthier food, but squirt some stinky fish oil on there so she still gets the smell.
 

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my cat is 18 years old and she has never liked fish. the only thing she will eat besides crunchy kibble is Ives vegan bologna picky, picky, picky
 

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my cat at my mom's who is going on 17 years old, hates fish flavoured cat foods. but now and then my mom will split a can of real fish with her, and she loves it. the fish cat foods just aren't the same i guess, she never liked them
 

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Ann N. Martin is great. Her books are a must-read for anyone caring for a dog or cat and feeding them commercial pet food. She's also against the BARF raw diet that has become trendy lately. She's really studied this whole topic closely.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SallyK</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
This is slightly off topic, but where would I get fish oil to put on my cat's food?</div>
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You can buy Derm Caps or Lipiderm in any pet store.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>rabid_child</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
You can buy Derm Caps or Lipiderm in any pet store.</div>
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! I was always looking in the pet section of my HFS. I haven't been to a pet store in such a long time. Is it silly of me to worry about the mercury levels? My vet recommended putting fish oil in my 10 yr old cat's food to help with constipation.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tsila</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Ann N. Martin is great. Her books are a must-read for anyone caring for a dog or cat and feeding them commercial pet food. She's also against the BARF raw diet that has become trendy lately. She's really studied this whole topic closely.</div>
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I was just going to put my dogs and cats onto BARF. Do you happen to know what she has against the diet? I think that feeding my pets that redered material is obscene. I have a little bit left of the last bag of dog food that I was intending to ever buy. I'll have to read one of Ms. Martin's books.
 

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There are pet foods that use only grade A products (i.e. none of the mysterious "by-products") that you listed. They're expensive, but they're out there. We have a holistic, all-natural pet food store near my home (owned by Dr. Bob Goldstein -- very well-known vet) and there are several different options available. We use Blue, but there are others as well.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>christy13</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Does anyone have a link or a list? I want to look into this and buy different pet foods if I can.</div>
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I've been feeding my cat this for about a year. He seems to love it and from what I can tell, it's free of the rendering plant nightmarish ingredients (I hope). I buy it at Whole Foods.<br><br><a href="http://www.petguard.com/" target="_blank">http://www.petguard.com/</a><br><br>
The extra cost for the food was not a big deal to us because prior to this food, my cat was on an expensive vet-prescribed diet. (for a sensitive tummy) I don't really think he needed a vet prescribed diet now, I just think he needed less garbage in his food.
 

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Thanks, Sally. The ingredient list for the dry cat food looks less scary than others. I'll definitely look for it. I'm feeding my cats a low magnesium urinary tract health food (Purina ONE) now, but the magnesium is low in the Pet Guard, too.<br><br><br><br>
Off topic, does anyone else get pissed off when they see veal catfood? Veal? Good grief, Charlie Brown!
 

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Christy, the link for the food we buy is <a href="http://www.bluebuff.com" target="_blank">www.bluebuff.com</a>. Our dog is super high energy and she thrives on it. (Edited to add: they have cat food, as well as dog food, but my experience is only with the dog food)
 

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Christy, the link for the food we buy is <a href="http://www.bluebuff.com" target="_blank">www.bluebuff.com</a>. Our dog is super high energy and she thrives on it.</div>
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Thank you, too. I have 3 cats and a dog (and a snake). My husband is very picky about the food we feed the animals. I printed that article and will highlight parts of it for him. That will convince him.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tsila</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Ann N. Martin is great. Her books are a must-read for anyone caring for a dog or cat and feeding them commercial pet food. She's also against the BARF raw diet that has become trendy lately. She's really studied this whole topic closely.</div>
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I did a google on this and found no instance of Ann N. Martin being against BARF (which I am seriously considering). Could you site a link?<br><br><br><br>
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Our cat likes this dry biscuit mix thing she hates chicken floavour but loves fish flavour. Our dogs eat just about anything but we feed them a dry mix biscuit thingy and some canned food. I'd very much like to put them on a vegan diet though.
 
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