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I have an 8 month old terrier mix that I recently adopted..She has been through a training program before I got her...She is a wonderful dog, the problem is when I leave her for work and put her in her crate she destroys every pillow, blanket and toy..Then when I get home, she is a completely different dog climbing the bars on the cages you would never know she is the same dog...Please tell me what I can do to help her settle down..One of the girls I work with said its seperation anxiety..I feel so bad for the puppy, I cannot even imagine what is in her little mind, what she has seen and where she has been..I do know that she and a couple other dogs were set to be euthanized the following day before the group I got her from rescued them...Thank you for ANY help...I love this little critter and want to help reassure her she will always be with me..
 

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I never had a dog that I used a crate with, so I don't have any first hand experience. Is she only crated when you go to work? Is it possible to try crating her for short periods of time when you are home, so that you can try a reward system to get her used to the idea of behaving in there, then being rewarded? Did you get her from a place where she was crated for a long time so that maybe she is associating it with being back there? I don't know, I'm just trying to think of possible reasons why she would hate the crate so much.
 

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Karen,<br><br>
She was sent to a local Corectional Center...The young men in the program (Prison Tails)go through intense training and I know they do use the kennels though I'm sure they are biger than mine as I know she had a kennel mate.. I never thought of trying to put her in for short periods when I'm here but maybe I should give it a try...I just feel so bad putting her in at all, even though I also know its safer for her while she is learning her new home, not to mention she may destroy everything in sight..She is PERFECT when I'm here or when we go anywhere..I have had her 9 days..Thank you
 

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Have you considered Bach's Flower Remedies? They can also be given to animals, with good results, from the testimonies that I've read. <a href="http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/bach/floweran.html" target="_blank">Here's</a> a couple of <a href="http://www.petsynergy.com/flower.html" target="_blank">sites</a> with more info.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.sacred-space.com.au/pet-health.html" target="_blank">This</a> site recommends <a href="http://www.sacred-space.com.au/pet-health.html#HeartEase" target="_blank">Heart Ease</a> for separation anxiety. I would advise that you do a bit of research in this field before actually giving anything to your dog, though.
 

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my friend had the same problem. his dog ended up on prozac, not kidding. it seemed to help his dog, who would pry himself out of his kennel and actually ate though part of a wall to the insulation. separation anxiety can be tough on some dogs. I hope some of the other suggestions help, so you don't have to do what my friend did and drug her with prozac.
 

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Having a kennel mate must help a lot. My friend adopted two HUGE dogs and they are together all the time. They actually like their crate! Must be the company. They are inseparable.
 

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I really apperciate all the recomendations...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> While I do not care for drugs, I have worked with Bach flowers before And I believe I will give it a try and also Karens thoughts of putting her in the kennel for short periods while I'm home with her..I can put some peanut butter in her kong and put her in for 15 minutes or so.. Thank you all so much, I'm willing to try most or your remidies..I will keep you posted...HAPPY EASTER
 

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If you have time, take her for a nice long walk before you leave for work. Nothing makes a dog behave like being tired.<br><br><br><br>
The Kong is a great idea and only give it to her in the crate. I wouldn't leave other toys and blankets in there with her unless you're sure she won't eat the pieces she chews off.<br><br><br><br>
I've never used Bach's flower remedy myself but have heard good things about it.<br><br><br><br>
Crate her for small amounts of time while you are home and ignore her antics if she starts going nuts when you do it.<br><br><br><br>
Ignore her when you first get home from work or anytime you've left the house. If you've been gone all day and she really needs to go outside, let her out, but don't make eye contact and don't talk to her. Wait until she calms down and quits begging for attention, and only then call her to you and give her attention. She needs to learn she gets attention on your terms, not hers. Ignoring your dog when you've been gone a while is a hard habit to get into, but it works wonders. That, and making sure she's tired when you leave, are two of the most important things to do for separation anxiety IMO.<br><br><br><br>
I recommend reading The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell. She talks about separation anxiety in the book. It's her theory, and I think she's right, that dogs don't get anxious because they're scared for themselves, the way most people think. The dog thinks it's the alpha and is concerned that it's subordinate pack members are going off without their leader. That book is the one that made the biggest difference in my dogs. One had separation anxiety, the females were fighting with each other, etc. and her methods straightened them out. Of course, remembering to follow her instructions day in and day out is a different story and sometimes I forget. Actually I don't forget as much as get lazy. My dogs soon let me know I better get back to it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> It's available on amazon.com and doesn't cost a lot.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck and a big <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"> to you for rescuing.
 

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I used to have a 105 pound dog dog with severe seperation anxiety. One day I came home to see there were no curtains in the windows, fecal matter was smeared on the windows and walls, and the sofa was moved up against the door making it hard for me to get in. This dog tore the ceiling off my car, chewed my visors up to pathetic pieces of chewed up cardboard, ate my headrest down to the metal part. You get the picture.<br><br><br><br>
The #1 thing is to make leaving and getting home extremely low key and not noticable. Put on your shoes an hour before you leave, keep your coat in the car. Keep your car keys in your pocket so your dog doesn't see you reach for them in preperation of leaving. Keeping my arrivals and departures low key the most important thing of all.<br><br><br><br>
Also I very highly reccomend for the sake of your dog's happiness, that you have a dog trainer meet you at your house individually to consult with you.<br><br><br><br>
This is usually a result of being re-homed too many times in the first year. Your poor dog is probably worried he/she will never see you again which is heartbreaking. You need to help your dog realize that it's OK. Your dog needs to feel secure.<br><br><br><br>
Have TV or radio on while you are home, then leave it on while you are gone.<br><br><br><br>
Get proffesional help from a dog trainer and you may be able to cure the problem.
 

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My younger dog WOULD have severe seperation anxiety, except that she is never alone. She is always with the older dog. ONE time I had to run with the older dog to the vet because he was having breathing difficulty...I lived about one minute walking distance from the vet...when I got home, my neighbor was livid. He thought that my dog was being beaten to death from the howling that she did. Got inside and she was breathing funny and foaming at the mouth from stress. After that, NEVER left her alone.<br><br><br><br>
I actually got her because I was not comfortable with leaving the older dog at home alone all day while I was at work. He used to go to work with me, but then one day he decided he didn't like it anymore. So, I got Cookie.<br><br><br><br>
I always try to put myself in their place. Would *I* be happy living with someone who locked me up in a house every day for hours and hours, completely alone? Would I be able to just sleep the entire time, entertain myself, or would I start to go a little crazy from being so alone? That's why I got Cookie. (the younger dog)<br><br><br><br>
Can you get a second dog? I think it's very likely that your dog would not be so scared (and destructive) of being alone if she isn't alone...if she has a friend. (same species friend...again, imagine yourself locked in a house alone for hours every day except for the companionship of a guppy)<br><br><br><br>
Barring that, you might also try making a video of yourself that you can play for her to watch and listen to. Make a cassette of yourself talking to her, even reading her a story so you don't run out of things to say. Leaving the TV on so she hears some voices could help.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck!
 

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i know you've already recieved lots of advice but here's mine:<br><br>
1. make sure your doggie gets a walk every day no matter what<br><br>
2. try leaving the radio on when you go out so he/she doesn't feel so alone<br><br>
3. leave a kong filled with treats (as was already mentioned)<br><br>
4. confine her/him to one area of the house and remove anything that can be damaged<br><br>
5. consider taking him/her to a doggie daycare while you're at work so he/she can be stimulated and supervised<br><br><br><br>
of course there are anti anxiety treatments (both natural and narcotic) available through your vet but those should really only be used as a last resort.<br><br><br><br>
good luck <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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You are all giving me some wonderful insights..I try and take her for a walk when I get home from work but maybe a short morning one would help also..<br><br>
I'm going to see if I can find this book "The dog whisperer".<br><br>
I would love to get a second dog..but then I get nervous about how to walk them both at the same time and if I can afford vet bills for 2..My nephew has a precious little 3 year old that (in my opinion) he does not spend enough time with..I keep telling him I will take her...Anyway I appreciate all the help and I'm going to try them..One will be my answer..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:">
 

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Make sure you give us periodic updates to let us know how it's working out!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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You might want to talk to your vet about <a href="http://www.clomicalm.novartis.us/index.shtml" target="_blank">Clomicalm</a>.
 

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Yesterday, I filled Lexie's kong with carrots and peanutbutter and put her in the kennel while I was home..I left her in there about 20 minutes...I walked in and out of the room, she did really good..When I let her out I made her sit and shake..Then I went to my sisters later for about 1 1/2 hour, she was not as bad when I got home, I totally ignored her, went in the kitchen and got a treat for her...AND I brought a spray (water) bottle in so she would not jump on me when I let her out...That seems to be a GREAT deterrent..Then we went to the park for a 1 mile walk..Thank you again everyone, I'm going to continue to try all your tips...
 

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Kong is the best idea. Filled with tasty goodies. Also if your garden is totally enclosed and dog prove get a small dog flap. I have one and it works very well, my dogs have a choice of going out or staying in.<br><br>
Keep a radio on, classical music is best it calms them down.<br><br>
Get someone to doggy walk while you are out.<br><br>
If you have time before work, take the dog a good long walk to tire him out.
 

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Have you considered Bach's Flower Remedies? They can also be given to animals, with good results, from the testimonies that I've read.</div>
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I give Rescue Remedy - by Bach's - to my pooch and it works great ... may have to do some expermentation to make sure you have the right amount ... make sure you're home the first time you use it so you can see how it affects your baby.
 

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My younger dog WOULD have severe seperation anxiety, except that she is never alone.<br><br><br><br>
Can you get a second dog? I think it's very likely that your dog would not be so scared (and destructive) of being alone if she isn't alone...if she has a friend. (same species friend...again, imagine yourself locked in a house alone for hours every day except for the companionship of a guppy)<br></div>
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I think you mentioned that your puppy was with another dog in the training program she was in at the correctional facility ... she might really be missing that other dog.
 

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If you can pay for doggie daycare, that would probably really help ... if you can't afford that, what about a dog walker that comes once a day? Even if you can do one day a week of doggie daycare or a dog walker coming over, it will help her out.<br><br><br><br>
Also, IMO, be cautious with the advice of the dog whisperer ... some of his methods are considered controversial and are against most of the long held theories of most animal behaviorists.<br><br><br><br>
Good Luck!<br><br><br><br>
Sounds like you're finding things that work!
 

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^^^^ When she said dog whisperer I think she meant Dog Listener, the book I was referring to. Two totally different people.<br><br><br><br>
So I don't turn this thread into another debate on Cesar Millan, I'll go now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 
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