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First of all, let me just say that I love you guys. Really, I do.<br><br>
The mesh of different opinions and personalities, and the invaluable advice I get from here, along with the good-natured teasing going on and gentle support, help with the whole vegetarian thing, and I hope will help me in my first attempt to 'go' vegan.<br><br>
Officially I started yesterday, although the only dairy I have eaten in the past month is what was in a batch of muffins my grandmother made for me. Aww, how sweet.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, enough of the mushiness. I actually Do have a point. (Boy, I bet you all are surprised at that, right?)<br><br><br><br>
Okay, point coming up...<br><br><br><br>
When I get asked about my reasons for vegetariansim, I generally just mumble something like, "I'm not comfortable with the way animals are treated in commercial industry."<br><br>
Is there a cooler way to say that, and also encompass the whole environmental issue? Like saving water by not eating meat etcetera.<br><br>
I need to rehearse my answer because A) I do not think well under pressure (ie some psycho beligerent omni in my face), and B) I don't handle people well anyway (I'm extremely antisocial and have issues with humans).<br><br><br><br>
So a nicely thought out, intelligent reply I could pull out of my hat without sounding obnoxious would be awesome.<br><br>
I know you guys are up to the challenge.<br><br>
Go the VBers!
 

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If you are a vegetarian for moral reasons then it's impossible, most likely. Anyone on higher moral ground trying to explain why they are there is bound to sound preachy or condescending or somesuch. Either that or they just think you are a ....errr....umm... wussy to put it nicely. Luckily most people don't care though.<br><br><br><br>
If someone does give you a hard time though just be honest and if they have a problem with it then that's their problem seeing as how THEY have the problem with it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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You could just say "I have a problem with eating meat". Then the ball's in their court, if they want to know what the problem is, they have to ask. If they get offended by your answer, you can pull out "well you asked, and that's my answer." LOL
 

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To add to your question. Why is it that when you say your veg*n that people automatically need to ask "WHY?". It's not like I ask every omni why they eat meat.....but maybe I should.....I don't think they could give a good reason, its what their use to.<br><br><br><br>
Gnarly, I think they ask you because they want you to come up with some extreme animal liberationist, enviromental reason for why your veg*n, so they can raise their eyebrows. I know its happened to me. They just want to debate you on it. Not actually listen.<br><br><br><br>
I can't think of anything, but maybe something simple would be better...not sure. I'll get back to you if I think of something.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I refuse to debate with people, and I always say so up front. I have no reason to - my arguement will not change anyone's mind at that point (it's different if someone shows interest - then I will chat with them for hours).<br><br><br><br>
When people ask me why I usually do like SheWolf - keep it short and sweet. I often say "I'm Vegetarians for more reasons than you will ever want to know about" - if they seem interested I'll share - if they get snotty or arguementative I say my lifestyle is not open to debate.<br><br><br><br>
p.s - I never rag on omni people who are minding their own business eating meat; I think it's rude, and I wouldn't appreciate them doing the same to me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Throw the WHY back! Ask him/her (actually the question came up more often by a him than a her) why he/she eats meat/flesh/carcass? If you keep the ball low (meat), perhaps the other reflects upon himself and tries to find out why he/she eats meat. After that you´re on equal grounds and maybe the other really wants to something about vegetarianism. Quench his/hir thirst for information!
 

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I really feel that when I BELIEVE something, I do so unapologetically. I dont feel the need to sugar coat anything to make someone feel comfortable. So just say why you do what you do, and leave it at that.
 

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Good answers DVmarie and Shewolf!<br><br><br><br>
I agree don't get caught in a windy debate, meat-a-tarians expect you to be belligerent, condesending and extremely leftwing. (nothing wrong with bein' a lefty <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> )<br><br><br><br>
Try this one for size...<br><br><br><br>
I have chosen this lifestyle because it makes me happy and healthy both in body and morally. I use this alot and usually it shuts up even the most offensive meat eater.
 

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I like someone's suggestion in a previous thread to ask, "Why do you ask?" That helps frame further discussion. Then you won't come off as defensive saying you made the choice when you found out how factory-farmed animals are treated, their impact on the environment, and what's really in your food. You also open up a dialogue. The other party may be inclined to ask, "How are they treated? What impact? What's really in my food?" Who knows? You might convert someone else!
 

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First of all, I hate constantly having to answer as to why I'm vegan, but I'm always very friendly about it. Sometimes if people don't ask, they'll never know which means they'll never consider it. There would be a lot fewer veg*ns as a result.<br><br>
Although my main reason for it was the animals, I've found that saying so usually brings debate. So this is what I say now (and with a smile), "At first it was for the animals, but I just feel so much better now - physically and emotionally. The average veg*n lives years longer than the average meat eater. I definitely eat a wider variety of food now. I'm always trying new things. It keeps dinner from getting boring. I'm doing my part to help myself and the world around me. I've never felt better." I know it reads long, but it's not so bad when I'm saying it.<br><br>
I always try to be friendly about it. That way if they try to argue, it's the meat eater who is the strung out, preachy jerk and not me. If they ask more questions, I'll offer some information then just say "If you want to know more, I'd be happy to give you a list of websites you can visit. And the library has a few books that might help." Usually the people who are most against it will decline. In which case they have no place debating it because they aren't willing to learn what it's really about. I usually finish with something like "Yeah, even if you don't think that going veg is for you, you should still try to have a couple meals a week that are veg*n. It will cut back on some of the unhealthy traits that animal products invite and will introduce you to new things."<br><br>
Again, this seems very long, but really isn't that bad when you're saying it. Since the animals have always been my primary concern, it is important to me that I address their curiosity and present veg*nism in a positive way.It really does make a difference. I've converted people that never would have even thought of it before.<br><br>
I'm kinda known for that around here.<br><br>
I was talking to a girl the other day that said she ran into two vegetarians in town that were talking about how difficult it is to find veg*n foods around here. She told them that she knew a vegan that worked at the nfs and they should try there. Their reply was, "Oh, are you talking about Erin?". I found that pretty cool. Not only am I the town witch, but I'm the town vegan too. lol <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I printed out on small sheets of paper my reasons for being veg*n because I got sick of telling people when they asked. Then when they ask I hand them a copy and can focus my attention elsewhere.
 

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Good idea, but you might have to change it from time to time, as reasons might change or the importance of each reason.
 

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I usually say "I hate the meat industry"<br><br><br><br>
and if they ask why, I go further and say:<br><br>
"Meat is is low-grade protien, full of chemicals and antibiotics, the working conditions of those factories is atrocious, and it's not butchering anymore-- it's mass harvesting of animals. One million cows die every year for food in this country, and how much of that gets thrown away because it goes bad? And on top of all that, there's sh*t in the meat. Don't eat it."<br><br><br><br>
Usually that makes them think.
 

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Thank you for your kind words, gnarly. Every now and again, it's good to hear how someone has been inspired and encouraged to do the right thing and keep doing it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":love:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":love:"><br><br><br><br>
Good luck also with your vegan path. Your body thanks you, your health thanks you, and the animals thank you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":love:"><br><br><br><br>
The reasons for my vegetarianism? "Because I'm the happiest when I eat this way". Most people can't argue with happiness and those that do, are pretty arguementive anyway so I just blow them off with something along the lines of "Well, <i>I'm</i> happy with it and that's all that matters". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> For those truely interested, you can go into further detail but most people aren't into details, they're just into the curiosity of someone that doesn't eat animal products.
 

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I generally answer, "For ethical reasons." If they ask more questions, my answers vary.<br><br><br><br>
I get questions like this mostly at mealtimes, so I'll say, "I don't like to discuss it while we're eating, but if you're really interested, I'll be happy to talk with you after we eat."<br><br><br><br>
I definitely <b>don't</b> feel like I have to defend my choices, and will say so, if the conversation turns argumentative. If the question seems rude or confrontational, my response is, "I beg your pardon?" This one works well for me in almost any situation.
 

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i use a similar line:<br><br><br><br>
It has an ethical basis; I'm not comfortable with the process and impact of animal agriculture.<br><br><br><br>
i think it basicly covers everything without a lot of detail. if they want details, they can ask.
 

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Wow, some of these responses have given me ideas. I do exactly the same as Gracie. I also like DYMK's positive response. Perhaps next time I will say, I feel so much better about myself when I know I am not a direct participant in animal agriculture." Or something like that. Sometimes I have said, "I did a lot of research on animal agriculture, it's treatment of animals and it's effect on the Earth and my body, and I could no longer participate in good conscience."
 
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