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I was reading the stupid things omnivores say thread and a few posts were related to friends and relatives <i>intentionally</i> putting meat and meat products in food and serving them as vegatarian. Is this something that veg*ans deal with often?<br><br>
If someone was ever to do this to me, I do not think I could be responsible for my actions towards that person. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"> Not cool, clever, or even remotely funny, ever, ever, ever!
 

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No, noone has ever done that to me ever!<br><br>
I wouldn't find it amusing, to say the least!
 

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My mom has lied about ingredients to me in the past, but I'm far too smart to fall for it. (She seriously underestimates my intelligence sometimes)<br>
My other family members and friends have tried to convince me it's fine because it's not a lot of meat, or I could just pick it out, but they've never lied about ingredients to me. I do get snarky comments when I won't eat something because it's not vegan, but I don't mind much.
 

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My aunt put real bacon bits in a salad once and told me they were fake, I was like maybe 9/10 years old. When I found the package I started crying so she never did it again
 

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My aunt put real bacon bits in a salad once and told me they were fake, I was like maybe 9/10 years old. When I found the package I started crying so she never did it again</div>
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I'm "lucky" in a way that my body reacts TERRIBLY to accidental ingestion of meat, milk, or eggs.<br>
The only people who have lied to me are my immediate co-workers, and they suffer the consequences.<br><br>
Eggs or milk = a ton of really smelly farts. About one every five minutes.<br>
Meat = a ton of really smelly farts that smell exactly like wet roadkill that's been bloating in the sun all day.<br><br>
Not only have they stopped lying to me, but some even read the labels of things I'm about to eat.
 

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The people I know wouldn't intentionally do such a thing (atleast I hope so!), but I'm afraid sometimes that they just dont realize that something is from an animal? Like, when they put margarin in something. Or when they buy salad dressing that there might be something in there, or that just because something is dairy and meat free doesn't meat there isn't something else in there. Or that mayonaise is made from eggs (or miracle whip). So sometimes they'll assure me something is vegan...and I don't want to insult them by doubting them...but I do!<br><br>
My future MIL always says her desserts are vegan. So I ask her what's in the recipe and there's always something like "margarine/cream/eggs..." She's done the margarine one a couple of times, despite that I let her know everytime why I can't. And everytime, bam! It's such a surprise to them "Margarine isn't dairy! What? dairy in margarine?"
 

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I thought my brother did that to me a few weeks ago. But I went to the supermarket and looked in the veggie sausage section, and sure enough there were sausages there that looked strikingly similar to the ones he served me, about the same width and shape, and with similar red bits in them (sun dried tomato bits, the packet said). So Im glad I didnt accuse him.<br><br>
I remember eating tofu sausages a few years ago and they had a really weird taste. But these sausages tasted like... meat sausages. I guess the food technologists have been hard at work, I dont know.
 

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Here is the way I look at it. Nobody that I am aware of has pulled this on my yet.<br>
but if they did, its not something to become irate over, you are not responsible for the killing or mistreatment of animals due to it or will it cause you any harm.<br>
Look at those of the Muslim faith, they cant eat pork products, if they do, there is a good chance their direction upon death could be altered, however, if you take a Muslim and force him to eat a pound of bacon, wash it down with some good scotch, then smear him in pig fat right before killing him/her then bury them in a hollowed out pig carcass, it will have no effect on the outcome of his after death rewards.<br>
In order for the Muslim to be denied access to heaven he/she must willingly with knowledge consume those products, if it is beyond their control, there are no repercussions.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Bluejeans84</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2876915"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
My mom has lied about ingredients to me in the past, but I'm far too smart to fall for it. (She seriously underestimates my intelligence sometimes)<br>
My other family members and friends have tried to convince me it's fine because it's not a lot of meat, or I could just pick it out, but they've never lied about ingredients to me. I do get snarky comments when I won't eat something because it's not vegan, but I don't mind much.</div>
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My mother likes to act like she knows everything about every ingredient. "No, it's not made out of that anymore" is her favorite. Who's the one that devoted their life to this cause and learned everything he possibly can about it? Me, that's who. I ignore the snarky comments, omnivores are idiots.
 

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Eh, as far as I know, I haven't had people intentionally feed me meat (my vegetarian friend fed me imitation crab once, before we realized it was made with fish), but in middle school, I had people shove meat in my face, or leave it on my desk...
 

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My mother likes to act like she knows everything about every ingredient. "No, it's not made out of that anymore" is her favorite. Who's the one that devoted their life to this cause and learned everything he possibly can about it? Me, that's who. I ignore the snarky comments, omnivores are idiots.</div>
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My moms favorite is "Honey, you're mistaken there is no way that's not vegan!" She also tells me how she studies ingredients, (she doesn't) and how she's lived longer than I have and that it doesn't matter what we're fighting about, she's right because she's smarter, ect.
 

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If anyone intentionally tricked me I would *never* eat anything from them again.
 

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Unintentional or ignorance is understandable, it happens. I would not take offense, just let the person know that that ingredient is not veg*an. Intentionally tricking someone into eating something is a betrayal I do not think I could forgive. I made the choice to never again eat meat; someone else choosing to do that to my body would enrage me.
 

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If anyone intentionally tricked me I would *never* eat anything from them again.</div>
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If anyone intentionally tricked you, they wouldnt be worth spending your time around in the first place.<br><br>
back in my decaying flesh eating days (not so long ago) when we had a family thing on my wifes side and we all brought food, I would label what I made and brought with every ingredient because her sister and brother in-law are vegan and he has allergies to almost every food that normal people (omni, veggie, and vegan) eat. I wanted there to be no question if they could eat it or not.<br>
and yes, even then I would make some non meat dishes like,,,, um,,,, ok, there had to be something....
 

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Oh, agreed. That's how I live my life. Loyalty, integrity and honesty are important.
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If anyone intentionally tricked you, they wouldnt be worth spending your time around in the first place.</div>
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my grandma tried to pretend her 'vegan cookies' had no eggs - they were bright yellow so it was pretty obvious, and so was her smirk! So I refused to eat them and that was followed by a 'come on, one egg isn't going to kill you. if you don't have one I will be offended' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
Then again, she IS 80years old and has no idea how to bake vegan. But that wasn't cool, she never did it again because I explained that it isn't about what will kill me or not, it's about morals.
 

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I have 'caught' my stepmum with the oyster sauce bottle a couple of times early on in my veg*nism..... but since I pointed out to her that yes oysters do count and that yes even if its only a little bit she hasn't done it. (I used the "If I put just a little bit of dog poo in your food....." analogy)<br><br>
Anyone who tried these days would receive a look of death and possibly the end of my tongue, recently a girl I vaguely know 'forgot' to mention that there was egg in the pumpkin pie after I specifically asked what the ingredients were. She told me after I had taken one bite. I promptly threw it in the bin and she got really ****ty about wasted food so I said something along the lines of 'oh well should have told me what was in it from the beginning then'. She was pissy but I don't care. I am normally very very against wasting food too, but I was proving a point so that more food doesn't get wasted in the future. She got the hint.
 

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It's happened to me. I was furious. I still am, actually, and it's been like three years. Probably because of the manner in which it was done; it wasn't accidental, it was more than once, and it wasn't even out of concern for my health or anything like that (I know it's not a legitimate reason, but it would make it a little more understandable). It was just... spiteful and cruel and disrespectful. And it was someone I really respected and trusted up until that point; a woman who had practically raised me from birth as a carer when my mum and dad were out working. It was horrible.
 
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No one has done that to me, nor would I do that to anyone else. In fact, when I do make something for the whole family, I show them the recipe, or container (wrapper, jar, bottle, etc.) of what was in it, just to make sure they know.
 
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