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Just checking out the ricemilk I am using, vitasoy doesnt appear to have the added B12 and D in it, does anyone know a good tasting ricemilk that does have them?
 

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Not really a rice milk drinker or an Austrailian/New Zealander but using google Austrailia, the first thing that came up was Rice Dream Enriched (25% B12 and D). Are you able to find any that are labeled as enriched? Hope that helps, sorry. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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thanks, will have a look
 

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does anyone know a good tasting ricemilk that does have them?</div>
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Not really. Vitasoy is the only ricemilk that isn't watery nastiness IMO. I just take a supplement for D and according to my blood tests, I'm getting sufficient B12 at this stage so I don't bother with that.
 

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I don't think there is a rice milk with vit D and B12 in it is there? I can't remember seeing one anyway.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Not really a rice milk drinker or an Austrailian/New Zealander but using google Austrailia, the first thing that came up was Rice Dream Enriched (25% B12 and D). Are you able to find any that are labeled as enriched? Hope that helps, sorry. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></div>
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Rice dream is not a brand that is available in australia.
 

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Not that **** again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><span style="font-size:large;">Hey non-Aussies peeps, quit posting about brands that aren't available in Aus cos it's really NOT helpful to people at all.</span>
 

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Yeah, I was going to say that one of my nanny girls' cousins drinks Rice Dream in New Zealand. I don't know if it's available in Australia. A Google search shows it online several places, though it doesn't seem cheap: <a href="http://www.healthlifenz.com/en/Imagine-rice-dream-rice-milk-original-enriched.html?product_currency=NZD" target="_blank">http://www.healthlifenz.com/en/Imagi...t_currency=NZD</a> (holy crap!)
 

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I was gonna say, I wondered how anyone could pay that. The shop seems to focus on sending things overseas, so maybe that's the reason for the inflated price.
 

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I was gonna say, I wondered how anyone could pay that. The shop seems to focus on sending things overseas, so maybe that's the reason for the inflated price.</div>
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lol, think I would rather have my coffee black..<br><br>
my vitasoy favourite from the cold section has become unavailable, so not impressed, but I ended up finding a vitasoy in the long life section that was fortified with B12, not vit D... but it didnt taste good, ok in coffee, but only just, and not for drinkiing on its own, thats for sure..
 

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Heh. There was a post deleted in there. I wasn't really talking to myself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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Heh. There was a post deleted in there. I wasn't really talking to myself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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sure you werent <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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You shouldn't have too much issues from lack of vitamin D in Australia or NZ as your body can make it as long as you spend time in the sun. Just make sure it isn't so much time that you burn. B12 may be an issue with vegans, but there are things other than plant based milks that are fortified with it. It is in most products that are designed for veg*ns such as fake meats, and it is also in many cereals. Next time you go to the doctor tell them that you are worried about your B12 levels and ask if you can get them tested. It may be that you are getting sufficient from other sources.
 

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You shouldn't have too much issues from lack of vitamin D in Australia or NZ as your body can make it as long as you spend time in the sun.</div>
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Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as that. Vit D deficiency is becoming increasingly common in Australia among the general population regardless of their diet or amount of sun exposure. Some medico's are suggesting that up to half the population could be deficient, and it's now such a hot issue that many GP's are now doing a mandatory screening for it because D deficiency has been linked to the development of some cancers. It's best to get tested for it rather than assume you are ok.
 

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Not really. Vitasoy is the only ricemilk that isn't watery nastiness IMO. I just take a supplement for D and according to my blood tests, I'm getting sufficient B12 at this stage so I don't bother with that.</div>
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Not to get off track, but how long have you been vegan? Just because your bloodwork is good doesn't mean you shouldn't supplement, it just means that you are still burning up the stores you built in your previous non-vegan life. You should supplement to maintain those stores. If you don't and you use the stores all up (which usually takes around 5 years but can take <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much</span> less), it's nearly impossible to build them back up and you're stuck on a routine of hardcore monitoring for the rest of your life.
 

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Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as that. Vit D deficiency is becoming increasingly common in Australia among the general population regardless of their diet or amount of sun exposure. Some medico's are suggesting that up to half the population could be deficient, and it's now such a hot issue that many GP's are now doing a mandatory screening for it because D deficiency has been linked to the development of some cancers. It's best to get tested for it rather than assume you are ok.</div>
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Is that to do with the increased obesity? My lecture was saying that overweight people make sufficient vitamin D but too much of it gets stored in their adipose tissue and their bodies can't access it. (I'm curious as I study nutrition)<br><br>
I do agree that it is best to be tested if you are worried about it being low, especially if you are considering supplements as fat soluble vitamins such as vitamin D have an upper limit for how much you should consume also.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> The obesity theory is one that seems to be getting around right now. I think there are multiple factors responsible though. Amongst the vegans I know, I'm pretty sure the high use of zinc cream and sunblock was probably the main factor involved in deficiency.<br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Not to get off track, but how long have you been vegan? Just because your bloodwork is good doesn't mean you shouldn't supplement, it just means that you are still burning up the stores you built in your previous non-vegan life. You should supplement to maintain those stores. If you don't and you use the stores all up (which usually takes around 5 years but can take <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much</span> less), it's nearly impossible to build them back up and you're stuck on a routine of hardcore monitoring for the rest of your life.</div>
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You make a totally fair point because that sentence I wrote makes me sound like a slacker about B12 and so I would be saying the same thing you've said to anyone else, but I'm not a slacker, I'm already a pretty hardcore monitor. I've had my blood taken once a year since I went vegetarian in '95 and since going vegan, every six months. Currently, my B12 is sitting on the high end of normal parameters as it has done for a while, which is why I'm not supplementing with it cos I just don't need to.
 

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You make a totally fair point because that sentence I wrote makes me sound like a slacker about B12 and so I would be saying the same thing you've said to anyone else, but I'm not a slacker, I'm already a pretty hardcore monitor. I've had my blood taken once a year since I went vegetarian in '95 and since going vegan, every six months. Currently, my B12 is sitting on the high end of normal parameters as it has done for a while, which is why I'm not supplementing with it cos I just don't need to.</div>
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Sorry, but I think you have totally missed the point. If you aren't fortifying, what you're doing can be compared to running on flat land toward the edge of a cliff. You monitor your safety by looking at your feet and saying, "I'm OK, because I can see the ground." If you are feeding off of your stores alone, you will eventually run out. I get my b12 checked every six months. At first I didn't fortify, and my b12 was great for a long time, then in a period of 6 months between two of the tests my b12 levels went from normal to grossly deficient, and I suffered the consequences.
 

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Again, you make a good point, but I am fortifying, just not supplementing. My daily intake of B12 from nutritional yeast alone is nearly 4 times the Australian RDA, so no worries. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Again, you make a good point, but I am fortifying, just not supplementing. My daily intake of B12 from nutritional yeast alone is nearly 4 times the Australian RDA, so no worries. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Great! Make sure you adjust accordingly if you change nationalities! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 
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