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I understand that humans are omnivores and people might bash me for saying this. Humans ARE CAPABLE of eating both meat and plants, and that makes us omnivores, even if meat is slowly killing us. My biology teacher was telling us how humans NEED to eat meat and dairy, we NEED it, and that our bodies were designed to eat it. I know this isn't true. I wanted to print out some articles to show her about the vegan diet. She also said that vegetarians "can be healthy" but have to "work very very hard" to make their diet healthy which also isn't true. I'm vegan and I have no problem incorporating healthy food into my diet. I know I could eat better but I love trying new and healthy foods to put into my diet!<br><br>
I've found one website. Is this reliable?<br><a href="http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm" target="_blank">http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm</a><br><br>
Please post some good, reliable websites to show her! All I've mainly found was blogs about this information, and I want to show her scientific/medical proof.
 

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It may not be exactly what you're looking for, but check out <i>The China Study.</i><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study_(book)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study_(book)</a>
 

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Different versions of what you post are scattered across the internet. Unfortunately, it is an arbitrary categorization that was constructed solely to support what the author wanted to believe. If you believe in evolution, you will find that the literature written by biological/physical anthropologists argue that becoming omnivores was one of the most fortunate moves hominids made in terms of increasing their chance of survival. If you want to make a sound argument, I wouldn't use this as any kind of basis.<br><br>
Instead, why don't you look at the websites of some generally well-accepted groups, such as the American Heart Association and the Mayo Clinic, who take very firm positions of the healthfulness and practicality of vegetarianism.
 

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That's wonderful! Thanks!<br>
I found one great article by a doctor, hope she'll agree with me a little more now!
 

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I definitely don't believe that humans were naturally herbivores to begin with, but I think heading in that direction is a good thing.<br><br>
Creatures in the wild don't always make the most healthy choices. Their main goal is survival and they don't think very much about getting sick or shortening their life, as long as their life is prolonged for the moment. Humans today have the power to think logically about that, so it's possible to choose the right diet regardless of what evolution did.
 

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From all that I have read, humans ate what was most readily on hand in a given ecosystem. Our ancestors closer to the equator (where the human species is thought to originate) ate more fruit and vegetable matter but did consume animals sparingly. Ancestors in northern climates relied more on meat & fish. Even when our ancestors killed an animal, they knew that something was not quite right about it. So, they would atone with rituals, etc. I wish we had that same measure of respect at the very least. Too many look upon animals as 'its'. It's really sad.
 

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I understand that humans are omnivores and people might bash me for saying this.</div>
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Basically. Humans are quite distinct from true herbivores - two differences off the top of my head are the inability to digest cellulose, and we also have more bitter taste receptors than proper herbivores (but less than carnivores). Certainly doesn't mean we can't eat a vegetarian diet, just we're somewhat limited in our dietary options compared to a true herbivore, and we're able to eat other things as well if we like.<br><br>
As for your source, the url is "celestialhealing.net". Don't be surprised if your teacher laughs at you if you try and use it as a source to back up your argument.
 

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What about paleoveganology? <a href="http://paleovegan.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://paleovegan.blogspot.com/</a><br><br>
I don't have a particular post in mind, so you may have to browse quite a bit to iond what you're looking for, but I'm pretty sure I did read something that would back up your claim there.
 

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Ask this teacher what nutrients you miss not eating meat/dairy, have a long list in response to each <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Let him know that meat and dairy both have cholesterol and saturated fat, both of which are linked to heart disease (the #1 killer) and cancer. Explain that vegetarians have a 50% less chance of heart disease and every nutrient can easily be found in fruits and veggies. Tell him that there was a study done comparing blood work... the vegans averaged 3 deficiencies while omnis averaged 7. Check this out: <a href="http://www.veganforum.com/forums/showthread.php?24-Nutrient-deficiencies-more-common-in-meat-eaters-than-in-vegans" target="_blank">http://www.veganforum.com/forums/sho...than-in-vegans</a><br><br>
I don't know about you, but most omnis I know are very unhealthy. Most of the veg*ns I know are healthy.
 

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Basically. Humans are quite distinct from true herbivores - two differences off the top of my head are the inability to digest cellulose, and we also have more bitter taste receptors than proper herbivores (but less than carnivores).</div>
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Can mountain gorillas digest cellulose? seed eating birds? People often think of ungulates when they think of herbivores, but there are many many other types.
 
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