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Don't take this too seriously, it was an epiphany I had whilst lying in bed last night. If life is governed by reincarnation, could it be that vegetarians/vegans where once slaughterhouse/dairy animals and therefore subconsciously that's why we don't eat meat/dairy products? Just an idea I had, it's probably been suggested before. ^^
 

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I don't think I've heard that one, but it sort of makes sense to me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/angel.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":angel:"><br><br>
I don't really believe in reincarnation, but i don't deny it either.<br><br>
I have had dreams of being a caged animnal at one of those terrible factory farms, so...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
So yeah, nice thought you've got there!
 

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I think you may be onto something, Wayne_D <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/idea2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":idea:"><br><br><br><br>
The veg*ns were once slaughterhouse animals in their previous life, and the people who are omnis now are the ones destined to be the slaughter animals in their <b>next</b> life.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/evil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":evil:">
 

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I think you may be onto something, Wayne_D <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/idea2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":idea:"><br><br><br><br>
The veg*ns were once slaughterhouse animals in their previous life, and the people who are omnis now are the ones destined to be the slaughter animals in their <b>next</b> life.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/evil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":evil:"></div>
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so we(vegans) are going to become the slaughter'ers of the animals in our next life?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":help:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Wayne_D</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
could it be that vegetarians/vegans where once slaughterhouse/dairy animals and therefore subconsciously that's why we don't eat meat/dairy products?</div>
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Number of animals killed in the animal industry in the United States: 10 Billion per Year<br><br>
Total human population: 6 Billion.<br><br>
Total vegetarian population: roughly 3-5% of that? (using U.S. estimates)<br><br><br><br>
Would there be a "soul buffer" for the reincarnation or how would that work? Or would only a few come back as vegetarians and others get to come back as like butterflies or something else?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Like you were once a pig (hated by humans) and got to come back as a dog (loved by humans)?
 

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Per my beliefs, the numbers of humans to the number of slaughtered animals doesn't matter with regards to reincarnation. We live in linear time, so it seems like it matters. In the "next life" there is no observing of time as we know it. Time can be any time you want it to be or none at all. There is also the concept of existing in simultaneous time. In other words, your existence spans all time at the same time, thus it wouldn't matter if there were only two humans in the next life and one hundred trillion animals in the physical life.<br><br><br><br>
And then there's the idea that you can come back as inorganic "life" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
Hope that helps (or monkeywrenches it a bit more <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sneaky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":shifty:"> )<br><br><br><br>
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for some reason that made me think of this picture.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/attachment.php?s=298fdee2cb84be1f4ca7b3a6aaf4cbfd&attachmentid=8907" title="">Attachment 8907</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
so sad.
 

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and this one:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/attachment.php?s=298fdee2cb84be1f4ca7b3a6aaf4cbfd&attachmentid=8908" title="">Attachment 8908</a>
 

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I think we're all just recycled, as the glass from a bottle becomes a tumbler or an eye-dropper or a lightbulb or a lens or the reflective bits in roadway paint. Imagine that life <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>troub</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
how does reincarnation explain the beginning?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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In the concept of reincarnation, there is no beginning and no end. We have always existed as energy, and we are not really individuals. We are actually all a part of "God", being the energy of love. Theory is that the "fall" of man is actually our desire to become and understand "God" more fully than we ever have, so we descended into this cycle of rebirth and must live a multitude of lives to understand and learn feelings of forgiveness, patience, kindness, understanding, loving thy neighbor etc. etc., eventually merging fully with all. It's easier to understand someone else's pain or joy that you may have given to another (karma) if you exist in their shoes at some point. Hence, an answer to the question "Why Me?"<br><br><br><br>
Of course there are different theories on all of this as well, but that idea is pretty comprehensive, other than if we have always existed and were a part of God at one point, why did we fall to begin with? Maybe boredom. I ponder that often.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation</a><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/angel.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":angel:">
 

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I'm not an expert, but I've been to buddhist classes for a few years.<br><br>
I can't speak for all Buddhists, but many believe that it is wrong to eat animals because it is wrong to make another being suffer. It is also bad karma to kill another being - it will stop us from acheiving enlightenment.<br><br><br><br>
It's also to do with the idea that our consiousness has existed forever, being reincarnated again and again as animals, humans etc and so at some point every being on this earth has been our mother (as every being needs a "mother" to bring it in to this world), so we should respect other beings as we would respect our mother.<br><br><br><br>
I find this all very interesting since I often have dreams that I'm running around on all fours like a dog....<br><br>
I'm sane, honest <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dizzy2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dizzy:">
 

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so we(vegans) are going to become the slaughter'ers of the animals in our next life?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":help:"></div>
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No. I said the veg*ns (vegans/vegetarians) were ONCE slaughtery animals in their <b>previous</b> life and those that are omnis in this life will BE slaughtery animals in their <b>next</b> life.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
But, I don't really believe in reincarnation - I was having a bit of fun with it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:">
 

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so we(vegans) are going to become the slaughter'ers of the animals in our next life?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":help:"></div>
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Don't worry, I think the way it works is that we have produced good karma in this life for NOT killing animals, so in our next lives we will be even closer to becoming Buddhas......<br><br><br><br>
Yay!<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:">
 

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I believe in reincarnation but not transmigration. The latter is what you are talking about. The former is only with humans, not animals.
 

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Buddhists call it reincarnation whether the consciousness becomes another human or an animal. At least that's what they called it at the Buddhist classes I've been to.
 

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reincarnation = transmigration<br><br>
Buddhists call it rebirth instead of reincarnation because they do not believe in soul<br><br><br><br>
rebirth = reincarnation = transmigration
 
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