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I live with my folks and we had to put our cat, Lola, outside around last winter because my mother could no longer tolerate the sneezing, runny nose, and itchy eyes that came along with keeping Lola inside. She was allergic to Lola ever since we got her in May 2004. The whole time Lola was kept inside, Mother took Zyrtec but it never seemed to completely do the trick. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
 

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Hmmm. Well, Zyrtec takes care of most of my symptoms (and I have 3 cats), but here's what I'd do if my allergies were worse: I'd try a different drug, I'd use those de-dandering cloths on my cats and brush them every day, I'd ban them from my bedroom (or at least from my bed linens), I'd install some good air filters indoors, and I'd get a good vacuum (those $400 ones... what are they called? that don't clog?) and vacuum with anti-allergen carpet stuff (or, better yet, rip up the carpets and just have rugs).
 

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veggiewriter, that sounds like good advice.<br><br><br><br>
Jen and I are going to visit my folks in Norway in a few weeks. We'll be staying for about a week. The problem is that my folks and almost everyone I know up there have cats, and Jen is unfortunately very allergic to cats. I've been reading about immunotheraphy, but for some reason it appears they don't do that here in the UK.<br><br><br><br>
Does anyone know of good anti-allergy drugs that they would like to recommend?
 

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humpty dumpty,<br><br><br><br>
I'm surprised that you guys kept the cat, to be honest. cat allergies are usually some of the most severe, and if even taking a daily antihistimine didnt help your mom, not much more will help. I've found that cat allergies are among the hardest to overcome, even with treatment. It can be done but its really horrible for the sufferer. I feel bad for, you, the kitty, but especially for your mom.<br><br><br><br>
Indian summer, for the same reason I mentioned above - I really think, if Jen is VERY allergic to cats, it would be a kindness to her to stay in a hotel while you visit your family. My mother is so severely allergic that as a young woman, she went to visit her sister, who had a cat, and while she was visiting, her eyes swelled so badly that her contacts cut into her eyes. She can never again wear contact lenses. I just don't think its right to subject an allergic person to their allergen. Allergies are serious and can become worse with repeated re-exposure. If you find a drug that works, that's great, but I would plan for some sort of backup in case medicine can't help - because often it doesn't.
 

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The idea of giving someone toxic drugs so that they can tolerate an allergy, when the allergen is easily removed, is absurd. Asking your mother to take drugs shows disrespect for your mother. Just another example of the sickness caused by animal husbandry.<br><br><br><br>
Stop viewing your need for having a cat as more important than your mother's well-being. It is selfish. Pet your mother instead of your cat.
 

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Whoa there. Perhaps her mom is looking for a solution too. It seems unlikely that the cat would've stayed in the house for two years against the op's mom's wishes.
 

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"Perhaps her mom is looking for a solution too"<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps. But if she is looking for a solution that involves continued proximity to a known allergen, she has serious self-destructive tendencies and self-esteem issues that are horrifying, and that shouldn't be pandered to. Not if you love your mom.
 

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soilman, this is just simply not true. Perhaps the mom is just interested in giving a home to a animal, or she realizes that the cat brings joy to her daughter.<br><br><br><br>
"serious self-destructive tendencies" is a overly dramatic statement that doens't help the op resolve her situation at all.
 
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i use zyrtec daily for my assorted allergies (its spelled differently in the UK- its called zirtek there, for some odd reason) and have done every day without fail for about 15 years (i'd probably throw myself out of a window if i had to live without it, lol) and its the only type of antihistamine that works well for me with limited side effects (doesn't knock me out, and minimises symptoms as long as i don't over expose myself to allergens - eg: i don't stick a cat/anythign furry or feathery in my face, don't go near moulds, and i dust at least twice a week).<br><br><br><br>
as far as antihistamines go, if one doesn't work for you, it's definately worth trying a different sort, as they don't all work for all people, i went through a whole array of them before i found that zirtek works for me.<br><br><br><br>
i've also used pirotin on occasion out of desperation, which to be honest doesn't work amazingly well on nasal allergies for me -its good for itching though!- but has the side effect of totally knocking me out so at least i can sleep through feeling rough- useful in an emergency but not if you wanna actually function- and you have to take it every couple hours instead of daily as you would zirtek.<br><br><br><br>
i don't know how your jens allergies work (if they're more itchy/runny eyes, itchy skin or sneezing/itchy/runny nose based, or a combo of them all, etc) but depending on that, other things to consider might include a anti inflammatory steriod based nasal spray like beconase or rhinocrom (sp?) which need to be taken daily for about a week prior to exposure to build up enough of it in the nose to work, but which can make a big difference to the whole burning itching running nose thing - they're not great for long term use though, i'd take a day off per week from them, at least or you might get a sore sensitive nose that bleeds easily (something to do with the blood vessels and the antiinflammatory-ness) and it tastes absoloutely vile when the spray runs down your throat (mmmm) so keep some juice/lollypops on hand when you take the spray, lol.<br><br><br><br>
i've also been looking into trying a plant cellulose based nasal spray as a steroid nasal spray alternative, i've seen them in health food stores and chemists, they work by producing a fine cellulose mist which coats the lining of the nose and stops allergens from contacting the nasal membranes and causing sensitivity there. sounds like a very good idea. a thick layer of vaseline up the nose would do the same job, i guess, but i doubt be as nice, or anywhere near as attractive either, lol.<br><br><br><br>
you can also get eyedrops which help with itchy red sore eyes from allergies, or just rinse them in a saline solution, which would be good for maybe using to flush out allergens after exposure, but i've not used them myself though.<br><br><br><br>
also, i friend of mine dealt with her allergies a lot better when wearing glasses/sunglasses, as when wearing them there was less of her eye area generally exposed for allergens to randomly float into- might help a bit.<br><br><br><br>
i think the best strategy for allergies if you can't change the immune response itself (incidently i think in some areas in the UK you can get desensitization shots, but they need to be done over the course of a year or so, and aren't always a perminant fix, and if its NHS, you'll wait bloody ages to get it done, if at all) is unfortunately avoidance- i'm ok in an appartment with a cat if nobody strokes it within 10 feet of me, and if its not allowed in my room or on the couch and counters, cos we have wooden floors and i limit clutter, and i can clean easily and often, etc- but its a different story in a house full of fabric and trinkets and catfur and dust that hasn't been vaccummed since the dawn of time, with 4 cats on my lap, people petting them constantly, and fur everywhere- i'd only stay in a place like that if i was wearing swimming goggles and a dust mask at all times and could take a shower/wash to decontaminate after each exposure (like i do when i dust or handle the cat here, lol).<br><br><br><br>
getting everyone to vaccum like crazy a day before jen arrives to visit them, (not right before, cos any allergens still in the air will be spinning around like mad just after they vaccuum, they need time to settle again!) staying in a really clean environment (a modern/minimalistic hotel if needs be) and spending lots of time out of doors in the fresh air, will probably help a lot, and if nothing else give her immune system a chance to recover after each exposure, and her a chance to stop sneezing and breathe a bit before she goes back into it.<br><br><br><br>
i can totally relate to how daunting this must be- i've just spent a week feeling really rough, walking round with a toilet roll for my nose, coughing, sneezing, and feeling like i had flu for 5 hours every morning, after sleeping on a pull out couch in my own lounge, while a friend from home visited. i dusted like hell before she arrived and while she was here, etc, but there must have been loads of dust in the mattress or coming from somewhere round the couch (grrr) so i felt vile for a lot of the 2 weeks she was here. feeling bad put a bit of a dampener on the whole trip, especially with not being able to do much about it (apart from maybe sleeping in the car?). it really sucks having allergies sometimes.
 

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soilman, this is just simply not true. Perhaps the mom is just interested in giving a home to a animal, or she realizes that the cat brings joy to her daughter.<br><br><br><br>
"serious self-destructive tendencies" is a overly dramatic statement that doens't help the op resolve her situation at all.
 
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i have an allergy to cats. put a cat in my face and i will suffer horribly. we found this out when i was about 11. we'd had cats in my house since i was little. we didn't get decide to rid of our cats, when we discovered i had an allergy. it was discussed, but i probably said something along the lines of 'could i please have an allergy to my brother and then we could get rid of him instead?' at which point we decided it would be cruel to the cats to discard them, if we could instead manage the situation and keep them.<br><br><br><br>
instead of removing the cats from our lives as if they weren't valued family members, we removed posessions which contributed to my illness (cuddly toys, junk, clutter, carpets, etc), and limited available allergens- we developed strategies like removing fitted carpets, banning cats from my bedroom, not waving the cat in my face, and cleaning more, and more thoroughly.<br><br><br><br>
and, yep, i do take antihistamines or 'toxic drugs' , in order to affect a really nasty immune response which is not limited to cats- as unfortunately i can't remove all furry or feathery creatures, every speck of dust, fur, mould spores, pollens, yeasts, or other things which i have allergies to from the planet, and apart from living in a bubble, my other options are limited- and, yep, i've explored them!<br><br><br><br>
sometimes you just have to find a balance that works, i don't think its always as cut and dry as it seems to appear to be to you. living around an allergen doesn't have to be the same as having self distructive issues and self esteem issues. i'm not some kinda weird allergy masochist. i'm someone who uses their common sense and develops strategies to make the best of an unfortunate situation- i might sniff slightly more if i slip up and get cat fur too near me, but i'd be more miserable without my cat around, she's family. i can do both, and make it work, and many others can too.
 

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oh good grief soilman.<br><br><br><br>
Mr. Meatless is allergic to Tippy's (rabbit) hay, so we bought a fancy air purifier which sits a few feet from her "home." It does the trick for the most part. I handle the hay so he doesn't have to.
 

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My boyfriend and his mom are allergic to cats, and both take claritin for it we have 5 cats living at my house and one living in his apartment, and as long as he takes it he's fine.
 

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Im allergic to cats/dust/life/practically anything haha..... the conventional antihistamines like zirtek/claratin used to work but now they dont. i have to take something stronger from a doctor called telfast. it doesnt cure my allergies 100% but makes it bearable to live. except shorthair dogs i have to admit ill never have one.
 

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benedryl is really the best antihistamine, but most of us don't use it because it causes drowsiness. However, that will go away after a few doses in a row. I used to take it every day as a child (they did not have Claritin then) and sometimes take it as a sleep aid now. When I take it as a sleep aid, I cannot take it more than a couple nights in a row or it stops working. Benedryl, when bought in generic form, is also super cheap.
 

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The idea of giving someone toxic drugs so that they can tolerate an allergy, when the allergen is easily removed, is absurd. Asking your mother to take drugs shows disrespect for your mother. Just another example of the sickness caused by animal husbandry.<br><br><br><br>
Stop viewing your need for having a cat as more important than your mother's well-being. It is selfish. Pet your mother instead of your cat.</div>
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Neither my parents nor I are willing to allow our cat to fend for herself in the wilderness, take her to some hole-in-the-wall animal shelter, or give her to people who we do not know for sure will give her a good home. Is that what you suggest we should do? You don't sound like a true vegan.
 

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"Perhaps her mom is looking for a solution too"<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps. But if she is looking for a solution that involves continued proximity to a known allergen, she has serious self-destructive tendencies and self-esteem issues that are horrifying, and that shouldn't be pandered to. Not if you love your mom.</div>
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You are simply trying to impress everyone with your trolling and egotistical statements. You should stop wasting time and space and leave this thread for people who truly want to help my family with this problem.
 

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Soilman is a regular on Veggieboards. But he makes no secret about his dislike for cats. He says he likes them "from a distance" but he's advocated for killing them on many occassions, such as if they become a nuisance or are outdoors where they might kill birds or get into someone's garden. So, if the subject turns to cats I take his posts with a grain of salt.
 

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Soilman is a regular on Veggieboards. But he makes no secret about his dislike for cats. He says he likes them "from a distance" but he's advocated for killing them on many occassions, such as if they become a nuisance or are outdoors where they might kill birds or get into someone's garden. So, if the subject turns to cats I take his posts with a grain of salt.</div>
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Really? OMG. Then he definitely does not sound like a true vegan. I don't understand why he continues to frequent this site.
 

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"Really? OMG. Then he definitely does not sound like a true vegan. I don't understand why he continues to frequent this site."<br><br><br><br>
This site is for vegans, vegetarians, dietary vegans (whose diet is vegan but aren't necessarily animal well-being advocates), vegetarians and vegans in transition from another diet, and those who are not yet vegetarian but are trying to go veggie. So even if I simply a dietary vegan, I should be welcome here. The fact is I am not for killing cats unnecessarily. Only when, on balance, I believe more harm is done by leaving them alive. The quintessential example is the feral cat that is negatively impacting one or more species of endangered birds.<br><br><br><br>
And I have a great deal of respect and admiration for cats. Do I "like" them? I don't like them or dislike them. They are what they are. Impulse- driven beings. If they were bigger, they would have more trouble deciding whether any human is a playmate or a meal, than the average human would have. Kind of like Jeffry Dahmer.
 
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