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I need help convincing my omni hubby off milk, he is great with eating veg at home, he eats as he wants when we go out to eat, but i do still buy him milk, he WILL actually go get it himself when i tried just refusing, he will drink soy and almond milk, but he is a big cereal eater hence the milk.<br><br>
sooooo i have told him all the disgusting dairy stories, etc...........he has made big changes where eating meat goes, he has decreased SIGNIFICANTLY, but i cant get him off milk.<br><br>
should i just let it be or should i keep trying, i dont want to pester him, because at some point he shuts down to my rantings.<br><br>
i myself am not totally vegan......yet,.......am still working on it, its mostly in packaged foods where i get dairy.......but im working on that.<br><br>
but i dont do milk on my cereal anymore or in cooking.......and the kids dont drink milk or use it either. he is the only one.
 

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watch earthlings together.<br><br><br><br>
if one consumes animal products after seeing that...<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:"><br><br><br><br><br><br>
and try rice or hazelnut milk in cereal - much better then cowmilk imo.
 

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oh and dairy directly supports veal - possibly the worst form of animal abuse there is (that and foisgras anyway)<br><br><br><br>
if you consume any sort of commercial dairy you support veal.
 

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Let him know you appreciate what he's done so far. Give him a longing look, a smile, and a kiss. He'll get off milk when he's ready and it's his own decision.
 

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See if he'll try cereal with rice milk. He may like it! If that's one of the only things holding him back, then it may do the trick. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I think you should be happy with all he's done so far! Oh my gosh! VB is full of stories of Omni spouses and boyfriends who refuse to even try anything remotely vegetarian. You are extremely lucky!!<br><br><br><br>
I would never 'pester' or 'rant' to anyone about their choices - especially if they've made some changes already... What if the tables were turned and you had a vegan spouse bugging you about those trace ingredients you still consume? You said you haven't gone completely vegan, some things are obviously difficult for you to give up - so why are you wanting him to make this change? It may be hard for him too.<br><br><br><br>
That whole "for better or for worse" thing? I think that means tolerating some dietary differences if you can possibly stand it. Give it time and leave him alone about it.<br><br><br><br>
Re: rice milk? Bleghhh... the stuff tastes like bland, sweet, white water. Probably little chance of getting someone who LIKES milk to choose it as a substitute. He needs to make the choice FOR himself, for the reasons HE chooses. There is nothing you can do, and if he's "shutting down" then you've already said way too much.
 

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Re: re: Rice milk. My Grandma, who is not veg*n, used to love cow's milk (but unfortunately had to take a pill if she wanted to have it). She tried rice milk, and now she absolutely LOVES it. It is possible for some people to find substitutes that they really enjoy. It's all about being positive. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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rice milk isnt a substitue for cows milk, cows milk is a substitute for rice milk.<br><br><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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^^^^^<br><br>
I like that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
Gold star!
 

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I completely know where your coming from with the milk issue. My son is about 75% vegetarian with the exception of the milk thing. I've found if he mixes the cows milk 50/50 with the lite Silk soy he seems to do better on it.<br><br>
He actually had a bowl of just soy milk with his cereal yesterday, so maybe it's finally starting to work?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><br><br><br><br>
For him it's just getting his tastebuds used to something different, kwim?<br><br><br><br>
As for whether or not you should just let it go. I completely agree that you need to constantly let him know how well he's doing & pick out certain things that you've really noticed about his diet lately. "Wow! You've been doing sooo much better with your salads lately, I'm so glad to see that your eating healthier!!!"<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
I think I finally got through to my hubby when I told him that "You know I love you & I don't want to be sitting in an emergency room when you're in your 40's 'cause you've had a heart attack, me & the kids need you!!!"<br><br>
I know it sounds harsh, but I really didn't say it in a harsh tone. I just wanted him to know how serious his eating habits he has now, can affect his health in another few years.<br><br><br><br>
No matter how much you talk to him about it, ultimately he's not going to do it until he wants too. It's so hard for us to realize that, when we know how bad eating meat, eggs & dairy are. If he's come this far, I'm sure given enough time and encouragement he'll slowly make the transition to non-dairy milks.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bow.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bow:"><br><br><br><br>
I think it's great that you care so much about him that you've come here to get some advice as to how to help him.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:"><br><br>
I say just give him some time & let him do it on his own timetable.<br><br><br><br>
HTH,<br><br>
Michelle
 

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You guys are right, i shouldnt pester. In actuality I don't really say anything all thet much, just occasionally i will mention the bad parts of dairy, and its to remind myself as well since I am working on getting it out too.<br><br>
I would just like to stop buying milk since no one else uses it, I think he will eventually stop too......<br><br>
but tns you are right, i am very happy with the changes he has made, he is a very meat and potatoes kind of person!
 

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I'm sure you've probably already tried different brands of plant milk, but it might just be a matter of finding the right combination? I never used to put milk on my cereal even before I stopped having it in general, but I started eating granola and muesli with soy yoghurt a while ago rather randomly. My brother used to put juice on his cereal before my mum started buying him vanilla soy milk sweetened with chicory, which I then tried and ended up liking although I'm still not big on plain soy milk on cereal. I also like banana, which unfortunately contains raw cane juice and hence lots of sugar...
 

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Some brands of chocolate soymilk are absolutely delicious! have you tried any and if so, what about Silk? that just blew me away. =D
 

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oh yes quincy we love chocolate soymilk here, hubby will drink that! the kids love the silk and the vitasoy!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>penny79</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
does he care about his cancer and obesity risk?<br><br>
does he realize he is human and not a calf?</div>
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my ex-gf was SO obsessed with milk and not only that, but she harassed me about being vegan and complained about never being able to live a day without milk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dozey.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":tired:">
 

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does he care about his cancer and obesity risk?<br><br>
does he realize he is human and not a calf?</div>
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Well first of all in his defense, he only has milk with cereal. thats it, its not like he is drinking glass after glass of milk,<br><br>
and he is actually in shape, he is a marathon runner, with better lipid numbers that rival the best of them!<br><br>
i on the other hand am not in shape and could stand to lose a few pounds!<br><br>
and im the veg!<br><br>
i decided he can do as he wants, i will work on my diet and he will most likely follow along anyway, he may never give up that milk on the cereal but at least the kids dont drink it.
 

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I wish I could get my hubby off the cow juice. we think he's lactose intolerant but he won't do anything about it he just suffers with the sore belly while drinking his milk every day. I think he thinks I'm just telling him he'll feel better because I have a secret agenda to help the cows (I do but he doesn't need to know that). he's calling the doc to make an appointment with the doc today so hopefully Dr H'll tell him he can't have his precious secretions anymore.
 

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I wonder if my childhood stomach aches came from dairy? I've realized that I almost NEVER get stomach aches anymore, even mild ones. I used to get them a lot, as well as heart burn and other "digestional" problems...<br><br><br><br>
since going vegetarian and definitely since going vegan, I just feel great all around. I know I keep saying it, but I haven't been sick ONCE during either. I definitely think dairy is comparable to meat in many ways, when you compare negative aspects of eating them...(not just eating, but yeah)
 

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I think you are very lucky also, my fiance will not even consider going vegetarian never mind Vegan!! He says "I like meat, I need meat and I will eat meat and as for cheese I like it" period he will not give it up. It is frustrating because I love him and I hate watching him put that stuff in his body but it is his body. Also since going Vegan my extreme sinus congestion has cleared up well and my heartburn (which I had chronically) is gone I even came off my meds, I was on omeprazale for years due to bad heartburn and acid reflux, these syptoms are gone. The last time I got bad bad bad heartburn was when I drank a glass of milk. ALso I feel my hair and nails are growing faster and are stronger then when I was eating meat and dairy. It really is a great lifestyle all around.
 
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