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Okay first things first...<br>
What is the difference between a raw food diet versus a fruitarian diet? What benefits do you see in one over the other?<br><br>
Now a few questions about cost. I've done raw foods in the past as a detox and paid quite a pretty penny for food. These days my funds for food are very limited. My husband and I live on $300/month (sometimes $200) for both of us to eat. I've been lucky in having a husband who loves rice and grains, so we have found a way to not only eat plant based but also almost completely organic! I'm worried I wouldn't be able to do this with a raw or fruitarian diet. How much do you tyically spend on groceries per month? Obviously a more simplistic diet is cheaper than a gourmet raw diet.<br><br>
Do you feel that variety is best or are there pros to eating mono for each meal?<br><br>
I want any insight you have because I'm wanting to begin incorporating more raw foods into my diet. My problem is there are very few vegetables I can eat raw and I have a very sensitive palette. If I try to eat something I don't enjoy the flavor of I literally can't swallow it no matter how hard I try <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/">. Even most of the "vegetables" I enjoy are actually savory fruits.<br><br>
Sorry so all over the place, trying to get all my thoughts out while typing on the cellphone lol
 

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Fruitarian diet: Nearly/completely impossible to get all your nutrients, let alone a full days calories<br>
Raw: Easily able to get vitamins and nutrients, and all your calories.<br><br>
I try to include three to four different colors in every meal, which is usually pretty easy.<br><br>
You may look into "Becoming Raw" It's a very good book with lots of information, and touches on fruitarianism.
 

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A fruitarian could also be a raw foodist.<br><br>
Raw foodist is typically defined as 75% or more calories from raw foods.<br>
Fruitarianism is typically 75% or more calories from fruit (sweet and not).<br><br>
I don't think it's a big deal if you don't like a lot of vegetables as long as you eat enough greens. And chomp down on those avocadoes or we'll kick you out of the raw forum! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> I hardly ever eat root vegetables; they are too starchy for me.<br><br>
I would say, with your budget, it will be hard. Maybe you can get produce in bulk somewhere? Also depends on your caloric needs.
 

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Fruitarian diet: Nearly/completely impossible to get all your nutrients, let alone a full days calories</div>
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What? Really? Why do you think that? I have posted charts in this forum outlining calories and all of the nutritional needs (and compared it to a typical cooked vegan diet).
 

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Mmmm...fruit. I know where I go for groceries (sprouts farmers market) the fruit is the cheapest part and I bulk up on it, still only spending about 15$ a week. I always get what's on sales and a lot of it! Then I freeze or dehydrate most of it to be used in smoothies or as snacks later.
 

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A fruitarian could also be a raw foodist.<br><br>
Raw foodist is typically defined as 75% or more calories from raw foods.<br>
Fruitarianism is typically 75% or more calories from fruit (sweet and not).<br><br>
I don't think it's a big deal if you don't like a lot of vegetables as long as you eat enough greens. And chomp down on those avocadoes or we'll kick you out of the raw forum! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> I hardly ever eat root vegetables; they are too starchy for me.<br><br>
I would say, with your budget, it will be hard. Maybe you can get produce in bulk somewhere? Also depends on your caloric needs.</div>
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I'm allergic to avocado so i'd be kicked out before I even got my foot in the door lol<br><br><br>
with a vegan diet I need approximately 1850 calories to maintain weight and not effect my breastmilk supply. I won't be going completely raw while I'm still nursing because I don't want to risk not having my caloric intake needs not being met and reducing my milk supply. I do, however want to start adding in more and more raw foods and try going raw once I'm no longer nursing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> so just getting a feel for everything <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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What? Really? Why do you think that? I have posted charts in this forum outlining calories and all of the nutritional needs (and compared it to a typical cooked vegan diet).</div>
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Would the 80/10/10 program be considered fruitarian? I'm pretty sure it is.
 

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I'm allergic to avocado so i'd be kicked out before I even got my foot in the door lol<br><br><br>
with a vegan diet I need approximately 1850 calories to maintain weight and not effect my breastmilk supply. I won't be going completely raw while I'm still nursing because I don't want to risk not having my caloric intake needs not being met and reducing my milk supply. I do, however want to start adding in more and more raw foods and try going raw once I'm no longer nursing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> so just getting a feel for everything <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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That's cool, it's a pretty low calorie amount compared to some, like the people who bike 2 hours a day, so maybe it will be a bit cheaper = less food.<br><br>
Why not try a raw breakfast and lunch and cheapo vegan cooked dinner like with the rice and beans (and hopefully greens)? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Would the 80/10/10 program be considered fruitarian? I'm pretty sure it is.</div>
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The raw version, yes!
 

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I did not realize that there was an un-raw version of a fruitarian diet! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I follow the 80/10/10 diet pretty closely and I find it very easy to get the calories. I think it's a good option for those who love fruit personally.<br><br>
I agree with Penny, why not try raw breakfast/lunch and a nice cooked grain and veggie dinner to offset costs?<br><br>
You mention loving fruit and having a hard time with raw veggies so you could even do all fruit until dinner where you can get your greens in a salad and steamed, along with your favorite grains. You will probably be able to easily surpass your calorie needs <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
Most importantly, have fun with it all and make sure you LOVE what you are eating.
 

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I did not realize that there was an un-raw version of a fruitarian diet! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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There is not. We were talking about a nonraw version of 80/10/10.
 

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My son eats a lot of raw, tons of fruit. My farmers' markets and fruit stands are life savers financially. And I buy in season and on sale! Plus we have some fruit trees on the yard.. Next year I'm planning a small veggie garden. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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What? Really? Why do you think that? I have posted charts in this forum outlining calories and all of the nutritional needs (and compared it to a typical cooked vegan diet).</div>
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<p>When eating 100% fruits it actually is nearly impossible to get all your mineral needs met. I have an article about that in detail (showing the actual nutritional data) here: <a href="http://www.raederle.com/2012/09/article-fruitarian-diet.html" target="_blank">http://www.raederle.com/2012/09/article-fruitarian-diet.html</a></p>
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<p>Now, as for the cost... My husband and I eat 100% organic, and about 70% raw currently. We use a lot of techniques to keep our costs down because we're kinda food snobs but at the same time we're on a tight budget.</p>
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<p>About 95% of our current diet consists of these foods: romaine lettuce, brown rice (husband only), t'eff, amaranth, spinach, kale, chard, apples, bananas, oranges, grapefruits, frozen corn, nori, cold-press refridgerated flax oil (no other oils usually), ginger root, medjool dates, raisins, raw carob powder, cinnamon (and an array of other spices like dill seeds and celery seed), sea salt (and celery salt and dulse), sweet potatoes (steamed, never baked—baked foods have acrylamide), and red-skinned potatoes.</p>
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<p>The above diet costs us about $200 per person. Although we do generally buy a few "expensive treats" such as kombucha, thunderbird bars, go-raw spirulina bars, etc, in a month, which can account for around $30 and only actually be enough food to feed one person for a day, if that. I have an episode of my radio show on how to eat raw foods on a budget here: <a href="http://www.raederle.com/2012/09/saving-money-on-produce.html" target="_blank">http://www.raederle.com/2012/09/saving-money-on-produce.html</a></p>
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<p>Hope this helps!</p>
 

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<p>If it is toughest part then why not try out the combination of <a href="http://www.bharatbook.com/packaging-market-research-reports/the-future-of-the-us-food-packaging-to-2017.html" target="_blank">raw food</a> with the some sauce or any thing combination of those . it would be testy if you found any good combination.</p>
 

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My son eats a lot of raw, tons of fruit. My farmers' markets and fruit stands are life savers financially. And I buy in season and on sale! Plus we have some fruit trees on the yard.. Next year I'm planning a small veggie garden. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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<p>Having fruit trees is such a brilliant investment! Really, why doesn't EVERYONE have a fruit tree in their yard?! We could save millions of gallons of gasoline in transportation of food, save millions of dollars on groceries (across the globe), save time, get more fresh nutrition (since nutrition starts to become inert the moment something is picked) and eat tastier food all at once!!!</p>
 

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I think the confusion is whether fruitarian is 100% fruit or not. I don't think it usually means that - as Penny said, usually 75% or more. The rest would be veggies, greens, nuts, and seeds.<br><br>
If you ate 100% fruits, no, you wouldn't get all your minerals (or protein, fats, etc, unless eating avocados). But usually people don't mean 100% when they call themselves fruitarian, at least in my experience. They mean more raw 80/10/10.<br><br><br>
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<p>Wouldn't you end up protein deprived if you eat only fruit?</p>
<p>I'm on a 10 day watermelon fast for detox and weight loss, I love how sweet it is. </p>
<p>We are growing watermelon in the garden too.</p>
 
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