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I want to start a raw diet but I am concerned about getting enough protien. What is the best way to insure I get the proper nutrition while eating a raw diet. I understand raw is the most natural therefore healthiest way to go. I want to make this work. All suggestions welcome.<br><br><br><br>
I tried raw soy powders and they are a bit too gritty for my liking.<br><br><br><br>
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You get enough protein in your fruits and vegetables. The need for protein is highly overrated, and people who eat raw need less than non raw fooders because when protein is cooked, some of it gets destroyed.<br><br><br><br>
You can also find protein in nuts. Do not eat too many of them.<br><br><br><br>
Probably your finest protein of high quality you can find in avocados. Again, don't eat too many as they are high in fat and your body doesn't like to digest too much fat. It's a strain for it.<br><br><br><br>
Don't forget that it is not the protein that is important, but the amino acids. If you vary your fruits and vegetables sufficiently, you will get enough of them.<br><br><br><br>
Sprouting is also a good idea. For instance, if you sprout Quinoa, you will have the best source of protein you can find. And it is COMPLETE protein, i.e. you will have all amino acids you need in one food.<br><br><br><br>
It is very difficult to have a protein deficiency if you eat a healthy raw food diet.<br><br><br><br>
This protein hype is a big Meat Industry scam actually. Of course, we DO need amino acids, but the Meat Industry has really gone overboard with their propaganda.
 

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You get enough protein in your fruits and vegetables. The need for protein is highly overrated, and people who eat raw need less than non raw fooders because when protein is cooked, some of it gets destroyed.</div>
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Yea, proteins are denatured when cooked but are you saying that the amino acids are destroyed when cooked? I tried to find a .edu link with no luck.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Probably your finest protein of high quality you can find in avocados.</div>
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????<br><br><a href="http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20Tj.html" target="_blank">http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20Tj.html</a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Sprouting is also a good idea. For instance, if you sprout Quinoa, you will have the best source of protein you can find. And it is COMPLETE protein, i.e. you will have all amino acids you need in one food.</div>
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yea, i'd go with Quinoa as well.
 

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Gaya: An avocado contains all 18 amino acids. With all the other good stuff they contain, they could be called a SuperFood.<br><br><br><br>
When food is cooked, the protein is heated and the molecule structure is changed. The body cannot assimilate it. These proteins can rot in the bowels.
 

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Gaya: An avocado contains all 18 amino acids. With all the other good stuff they contain, they could be called a SuperFood.</div>
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agreed but avocados seem to contain such a small amount which is why I wouldn't consider them as a great source.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">When food is cooked, the protein is heated and the molecule structure is changed.</div>
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that is what denaturation is and protein will become denatured in the stomach before it makes its way to the SI for absorption so I'm still a bit confused. Whether they become denatured during cooking is of little importance but as I asked before, are you saying that amino acids are destroyed during cooking?<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">the body cannot assimilate it. These proteins can rot in the bowels.</div>
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where are you getting this information? It doesn't make sense to me.
 

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Where do I get this information? From all the stuff I have been reading up on Raw Foodism in the last weeks. I also seem to recall that this was mentioned in The China Study.<br><br><br><br>
I probably didn't use my words precisely enough. To me, if they are denatured, they are destroyed because they are no longer in their pristine form. I don't think that it is of little importance that the protein gets denatured.
 

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I like this link <a href="http://www.bodyfatguide.com/NotGettingEnoughProtein.html" target="_blank">http://www.bodyfatguide.com/NotGetti...ghProtein.html</a><br><br>
It just makes sense.<br><br><br><br>
Protein just shouldn't be an issue. A raw diet provides all you need easily. If I were you I would worry more about getting adequate b12, iron etc.
 

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i think the problem with a lot of information on the web is random people posting things that have no basis in science and they are trying to sell you something.
 

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Where do I get this information? From all the stuff I have been reading up on Raw Foodism in the last weeks. I also seem to recall that this was mentioned in The China Study.</div>
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Be weary because there is a lot of misinformation out there and raw food sites are filled with it/garbage.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">I probably didn't use my words precisely enough. To me, if they are denatured, they are destroyed because they are no longer in their pristine form. I don't think that it is of little importance that the protein gets denatured.</div>
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To you? The term denature is not really up for debate lol. Again, your stomach will denature the protein you receive from raw food. It all ends up denatured before the opportunity for absorption (for the most part). You could google protein conformation to learn more about it.
 

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Here's a little commentary from wikipedia that is correct.<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_protein" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_protein</a>
 

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I saw a raw site once that claimed bananas were a great source of B-12.</div>
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Oh yea and celery is a great source of sodium lol. Ulitmately it's up to the reader to do her own research but it can be hard with all the bizarre info out there. People also seem to forget about the quantity of nutrients in various foods, what foods can affect absorption etc.
 

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Thanks for the wiki link, Gaya.</div>
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you're welcome <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I am concerned about protien because I work out 3 days a week and the proper protien (or right amount of certain amino acids) is essential to the building of muscle. Thank you for your advice, I do eat avocados, but they contain to much fat. Yellow peas and hemp fiber as well as soy beans are the only plant sources that I know of that contain complete protiens, but they are none assimilated easily by the body in thier raw form, even when powdered in meal replacements.<br><br><br><br>
Rice and beans together make complete protiens. but again they do not work well in the raw.<br><br><br><br>
Are there any other suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Peace and Love to all Vegetarians/Vegans!!
 

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here in portugal we have a snack called tremoços, ie. lupine seeds in salt water. contains lots of protein, too.
 

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I am concerned about protien because I work out 3 days a week and the proper protien (or right amount of certain amino acids) is essential to the building of muscle.<br><br>
Thank you for your advice, I do eat avocados, but they contain to much fat.</div>
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You would have to eat 7-10 avocados per day to get enough protein if that was your only source.<br><br>
This is a pretty good nutrition site to find out about nutrient content in food. If you scroll down to the amino acid box you will see that one avocado supplies roughly 10% of your daily requirement.<br><br><a href="http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20Tj.html" target="_blank">http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20Tj.html</a><br><br><br><br>
Remember to do your own research as not everything on the net is on target. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Yellow peas and hemp fiber as well as soy beans are the only plant sources that I know of that contain complete protiens, but they are none assimilated easily by the body in thier raw form, even when powdered in meal replacements.<br><br><br><br>
Rice and beans together make complete protiens. but again they do not work well in the raw.<br><br><br><br>
Are there any other suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Peace and Love to all Vegetarians/Vegans!!</div>
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How about nuts? I don't know. If you are interested in building muscle this could be a pain. I've heard of this "raw powder" stuff <a href="http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi?af=1544&display=single&item_id=1017" target="_blank">http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order...e&item_id=1017</a><br><br><br><br>
but you should certainly investigate.
 

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I am concerned about protien because I work out 3 days a week and the proper protien (or right amount of certain amino acids) is essential to the building of muscle. Thank you for your advice, I do eat avocados, but they contain to much fat. Yellow peas and hemp fiber as well as soy beans are the only plant sources that I know of that contain complete protiens, but they are none assimilated easily by the body in thier raw form, even when powdered in meal replacements.<br><br><br><br>
Rice and beans together make complete protiens. but again they do not work well in the raw.<br><br><br><br>
Are there any other suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Peace and Love to all Vegetarians/Vegans!!</div>
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sweets, I work out 6 days a week, and on fridays and wednesdays, 3x a day.<br><br>
unless you are a bodybuilder I swear you won't have to worry, just eat a big variety of foods.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":vebo:"><br><br><br><br>
Seasiren is a high raw weightlifter. she'll tell you.
 

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Protein & calcium info:<br><br><a href="http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3708" target="_blank">http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3708</a><br><br><br><br>
Storm Talifero, below at 53 years old, raw vegan for 31 years! Workouts include yoga, weights, martial arts, swimming, mountain climbing, bicycling, running, hiking.<br><br><a href="http://www.thegardendiet.com/storm.html" target="_blank">http://www.thegardendiet.com/storm.html</a>
 

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I am concerned about protien because I work out 3 days a week and the proper protien (or right amount of certain amino acids) is essential to the building of muscle. Thank you for your advice, I do eat avocados, but they contain to much fat. Yellow peas and hemp fiber as well as soy beans are the only plant sources that I know of that contain complete protiens, but they are none assimilated easily by the body in thier raw form, even when powdered in meal replacements.<br><br><br><br>
Rice and beans together make complete protiens. but again they do not work well in the raw.<br><br><br><br>
Are there any other suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Peace and Love to all Vegetarians/Vegans!!</div>
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oh, just FYI, you don't have to combine at every meal.just throughout the day.
 
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