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If you were asked to help care for turkeys for slaughter by an administration, would you request to opt out, or would you propose that you would care for them if you could take your share (a single turkey) alive and safe.<br><br>
I requested the opt out and received it under the condition that I help with more gardening, but now I'm wondering if it might be better to care for them for the chance one could be saved.<br><br>
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I would raise them and rescue one.
 

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I would opt out and ask for my share in return for doing the extra gardening.<br><br>
You could bet your last dollar that my turkey would be my chosen guest at the organisations Christmas dinner.<br><br>
Is 'Guiltrip' a good name for a turkey does anyone think, btw?
 

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Guessing the care only lasts a few months from now til thanksgiving?<br>
I don't know. I might agree to care for them in order to save one. Then when it came time to slaughter I would probably plea for more than one.<br>
I would definately seek room for many of them at a farmed animal sanctuary. I might try to convince other people to "pardon" their turkeys.
 

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For <i>myself</i>, logically and ethically it'd be better to care for them in order to save one. It's better that someone who cares about turkeys raise them, because they'd raise them better, with love and care, instead of just raising them as a piece of meat. However, you're the only one that can make the decision for yourself, based on if you think you could handle it emotionally and find it morally and logically acceptable for <i>you</i>, not any of us.
 

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For <i>myself</i>, logically and ethically it'd be better to care for them in order to save one. It's better that someone who cares about turkeys raise them, because they'd raise them better, with love and care, instead of just raising them as a piece of meat. However, you're the only one that can make the decision for yourself, based on if you think you could handle it emotionally and find it morally and logically acceptable for <i>you</i>, not any of us.</div>
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I agree with this. I'd want to save one but it would be extremely hard emotionally. If you can do it that's fantastic but I certainly wouldn't blame you if you opted out.
 

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I requested to help care for them in turn to save one. I'll let you know how it unfolds. I was just curious what other vegans/vegetarians would do when faced with a similar circumstance.
 

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I would just stand around, and on slaughter day I would scoop them all up in a giant net and take off in my red sports car to farm sanctuary!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>disney.jessica</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2958214"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
For <i>myself</i>, logically and ethically it'd be better to care for them in order to save one. It's better that someone who cares about turkeys raise them, because they'd raise them better, with love and care, instead of just raising them as a piece of meat. However, you're the only one that can make the decision for yourself, based on if you think you could handle it emotionally and find it morally and logically acceptable for <i>you</i>, not any of us.</div>
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I agree with this, morally I think the best thing would be to care for them and save one, but I don't think I could do it.
 

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Still waiting for a response. . . I'm thinking that there is a good chance my request will be denied.<br><br>
I've been going over the the turkey cage during my gardening duties to say hello. I also asked if I could let them into their outside pen from time to time but no response there yet either. It might just be that I get to watch them grow up slowly and see their dead bodies around thanksgiving.<br><br>
The other people in my cohort were asked to help with the slaughter as well. I declined.
 

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I would take the job, rescue one, and donate a lot of the money I made to an effective outreach program that will educate people to spare thousands more.
 

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We don't get paid. As a Graduate Student it is considered a part of the larger program experience and practicum.
 

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Maybe you could ask if you could raise them and be able to buy one alive? Maybe the reason they're denying your request is because they don't want to lose the money for the bird.
 

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Updates:<br><br>
I asked if I could buy one. No response.<br>
It seems that they still aren't being allowed outside.<br>
A second chick died this weekend. People seem more disappointed about the loss of food than about the loss of life. The response to the news seemed akin to the reaction of dropping a sandwich on a dirty floor. To them these turkeys are nothing but potatoes with legs. How does one coexist with a community when faced with such apathy and indifference?
 

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I asked if I could buy one. No response.<br>
It seems that they still aren't being allowed outside.<br>
A second chick died this weekend. People seem more disappointed about the loss of food than about the loss of life. The response to the news seemed akin to the reaction of dropping a sandwich on a dirty floor. To them these turkeys are nothing but potatoes with legs. How does one coexist with a community when faced with such apathy and indifference?</div>
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That is so awful. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Why are all the chicks dying? Are they not taking care of them? And that's crazy that they wouldn't let you buy/save one. They've already lost two, and if it was for bad care, they'd have been better off with you, someone who actually cares about them, taking care of them and then they'd only lose one "piece of meat", as they see it.
 

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Covert mission once the sun goes down.<br><br>
Im sorry that you have to be around that kind of environment. Can you opt out of that part of the program altogether?
 

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Covert mission once the sun goes down.<br><br>
Im sorry that you have to be around that kind of environment. Can you opt out of that part of the program altogether?</div>
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I opted out of everything that has to do with raising animals for slaughter (they plan on buying a couple pigs later in the season). In return for this accommodation I had to triple my gardening duties. I still visit the turkeys when I'm at the farm and whistle to them and wish I could let them outside without getting in trouble.
 

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Hmm I'm sorry there's not more you can do <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:">
 

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Why the hell aren't they allowed outside?
 
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