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I have fears myself about the criticism that I already receive about raising my children vegetarian. My son is like Debra's child- Failure to thrive. He is 23 lbs at 2 1/2 years old. Its not because he is vegetarian, its because he has acid reflux (which he is being treated for now), picky eater, and super active. Its tough criticism to face when people compare how you choose to feed your children on the level with abusing/ neglecting them.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2971184"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><a href="http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/08/raising-your-child-vegan-isnt-that-illegal/" target="_blank">http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/...-that-illegal/</a><br><br><br>
I thought I would share this article.<br><br>
I have fears myself about the criticism that I already receive about raising my children vegetarian. My son is like Debra's child- Failure to thrive. He is 23 lbs at 2 1/2 years old. Its not because he is vegetarian, its because he has acid reflux (which he is being treated for now), picky eater, and super active. Its tough criticism to face when people compare how you choose to feed your children on the level with abusing/ neglecting them.</div>
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<br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">My kids are huge, they were both big 9-10lb babies. They are both vegan and both of them are the biggest kids in their classes. I hardly ever get questioned about what they eat becuase people see them eating healthy food and can clearly see that they look very healthy, even people that don't like veganism have said "well you must be doing something right". I think it would be much harder for me to continue them on a vegan diet if they had "failure to thrive". I wouldn't like being constantly scrutinized. Also, I would spend a lot of time questioning whether I was putting my kids at risk. I could see myself adding eggs and dairy products to their diet to see if that helped. I feel for you that you have to have to deal with these criticisms</span></span>
 

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I have no tolerance for people who criticize parents for raising their kids as vegans. None. It's none of their business, and unless the life of the child is at stake, they should mind their own business and pick something else to be neurotic about.
 

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^^^ agree. I have a niece and nephew who are siblings (same parents- not half siblings) who are both just tiny kids. They eat the standard American diet and are still underweight. I'm sure no matter what diet they have, they'll be small. The little girl had a dairy allergy too.
 

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I was very small (potentially classified as failure to thrive..I'll ask my mom) as a child. And I ate an omni diet. Trust me, I caught up (and then some). Everyone is different. And unless the child is at risk, people need to bug off.
 

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I was raised omni , I was born 9 pounds, I got sick as a baby so, I didn't eat to much in my early years and my parents tried everything. When I was 9 years old my parents around that time took me to pizza places like showbiz now chuck E cheeses and Mcdonalds in my earlier years. Up until 9 or 10 years old I was slim but, I started gaining weight because each and everything I wanted to do my parents discouraged me because they thought I was too slow, I then ate alot of fast food , junk food and other bad things for you and all I did was sit at home watch Nickoldeon and seasmee street and other stuff and play my nintendo because hardly anything I can do.<br>
If my husband and I have children, I am going to have them active, have them eat healthy and I am going to raise them Vegeterians.
 

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Should be illegal.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>unovegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2971328"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Should be illegal.</div>
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Care to elaborate?
 

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I'm raising my future kid vegan, regardless of what my family/friends/anyone else thinks.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2971351"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
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His kids are vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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His kids are vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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I figured <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Baby has had feeding issues, but luckily we live in a veg-friendly place and haven't had too much pressure from her doctors and therapists to feed her animal products. I'm glad we live here, because she was doing really badly until she was diagnosed with celiac disease. I'm sure we would have been hassled about it if we lived in Wyoming (my home state).<br>
Now she's gaining weight and doing wonderfully on a gluten-free vegan diet. I think it's funny because some family members were insisting that if we just fed her some cheese and eggs, she'd be fine - but the only way for her to be healthy was to make her diet <i>more</i> "restricted."
 

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We have experienced plenty of ignorance and a little discrimination as a vegan family. Our son is as healthy as can be and is growing exactly as expected. But people with bias against veg*nism do sometimes make life a little difficult for us. I have found that it's important to know about veg nutrition for kids not just for the health of your kiddo but also to help quell other people's fear and ignorance.<br><br>
Nutrition info for veg kids...<br><br>
The American Dietetic Association recommendations for feeding vegan and vegetarian infants and toddlers: <a href="http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=8060" target="_blank">http://www.eatright.org/Public/content.aspx?id=8060</a><br><br>
Vegan Health info page on vegan pregnancy and children: <a href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/preginfchil" target="_blank">http://veganhealth.org/articles/preginfchil</a><br><br>
Pregnancy and the Vegan Diet article at Vegetarian Resource Group: <a href="http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/veganpregnancy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/veganpregnancy.htm</a>
 

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thank you Elaine for those links- they are very helpful!<br><br>
And I know I don't have to defend myself to any of you, but I should also note that I have a 1 year old on the same exact diet as my FTT 2 year old and she is thriving and a healthy weight. I feel like I can use that when I face criticism.<br><br>
We also recently changed pediatricians after getting a "look" from my other guy. I feel that I need someone who is supportive of my ideals.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2971489"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br>
We also recently changed pediatricians after getting a "look" from my other guy. I feel that I need someone who is supportive of my ideals.</div>
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I would too. Why do battle with your kids' doctor every time they have check-up?
 

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I have no tolerance for people who criticize parents for raising their kids as vegans. None. It's none of their business, and unless the life of the child is at stake, they should mind their own business and pick something else to be neurotic about.</div>
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Personally, I would criticize people for bringing up their kids on a non-vegan diet, particularly ones that include meat. As far as I'm concerned, that stuff doesn't belong in children's bodies, the same way cigarette smoke doesn't belong there. They're too young to consent to the risks of consuming animal protein (linked to higher risk of cancer, earlier puberty, etc.), prions that can cause Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease later in life, etc.
 

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Personally, I would criticize people for bringing up their kids on a non-vegan diet, particularly ones that include meat. As far as I'm concerned, that stuff doesn't belong in children's bodies, the same way cigarette smoke doesn't belong there. They're too young to consent to the risks of consuming animal protein (linked to higher risk of cancer, earlier puberty, etc.), prions that can cause Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease later in life, etc.</div>
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YES!!! ^^^^ this x 1,000,000<br><br>
I don't get it. I should snark at parents when I see them hand their 3 year old a chili dog. But I don't say anything because I'm chickensh*t haha
 

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I know I don't have to defend myself to any of you, but I should also note that I have a 1 year old on the same exact diet as my FTT 2 year old and she is thriving and a healthy weight. I feel like I can use that when I face criticism.</div>
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Sounds like your 2-year-old needs to have some tests done. Could be a food allergy or a genetic condition. Maybe a disease? Failure to thrive is very serious. If that's the real diagnosis then I'm betting any pediatrician would be legally obligated to report your family to child services. Are you sure it's really FTT?<br><br>
If I were you and it was really FTT then I'd put the kiddo on a high calorie diet and Id run every imaginable test to try to determine the cause. I would also consider temporarily giving the child a nonvegan diet in order to help determine the cause of the symptoms. If nothing else, that would at least refocus doctors and child welfare workers away from diet and towards the real cause of her FTT. Remember, when kids are truly seriously FTT, doctors put them on feeding tubes and give them special formulas that aren't vegan. So before it gets to that point I'd get serious about fixing whatever the problem is.
 

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I don't get it. I should snark at parents when I see them hand their 3 year old a chili dog. But I don't say anything because I'm chickensh*t haha</div>
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I don't, either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> The most I would probably do is comment on it to someone with me, and only loud enough for the parents to hear if I were feeling particularly brazen that day. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> People don't tend to take too kindly to being criticized about their parenting skills, particularly by people who don't have children of their own.
 
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