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If I made white flour pacakes, as apposed to my half-rye half-white ones, do you think you can get just as full on them as the rye, or does the fiber contribute that much to the "fullness" factor. What aboiut half cornmeal half white? Is taht nutritional?
 

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Fullness comes from volume not fiber. But why would you want to do that to your body? It will not affect you today but is a long-term problem. Your gut, which is not affected by full will be the first to suffer and you may not even notice until three days later you are in the restroom straining.

I understand the temptation to tickle the taste buds instead of feeding the body. Still, I want fuel and health.
 

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Then by all means, enjoy yourself!

Fiber BTW, is not the only problem with white flour, just the first to be noticed. Still, treats are one of the joys of life and I do miss my dads Sunday morning "knock your socks off" pancakes made with white flour and served with margarine, hydrogenated peanut butter and sugar syrup made with mapleine. Didn't kill me.
 

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Yar. And spaghetti. Whole wheat pasta is just sickening. For pancakes, I would rock the white flour.

Besides, the fiber-fullness factor only sort of works.. after the meal. It keeps you feeling fuller longer, it doesn't help you fill up any faster while eating.

And um, I think Keegan is in the same boat as me. We get too much fiber. Sometimes I have to limit my beans, veggies and whole grains. A body can only take so much fiber!
 

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About the fiber, sometimes too much isn't a good thing either. In "Becoming Vegan" the authors say that it's better not to put young children on a low fat and high fiber diet because their stomachs are small and fill up quickly. It's likely they won't get enough calories. As the children grow their diet can be adjusted more toward a low fat and high fiber diet.

For adults fairly high fiber diets usually work well but very high fiber diets cause the nutrients not to be absorbed as well.

In your situation your stomach probably hasn't reached full size. Also, you need to put on weight so it may be better to limit your fiber intake; I'm not sure. I believe you have the book "Becoming Vegan". If you don't you should certtainly get it. I think you should read three chapters in the book: "Growing Vegans", "Eating Disorders" and "Underweight". See what their recommendations are for fiber intake in your situation.

And another thing Keegan, if you want to add many of the nutrients back into white flour you can add wheatgerm to it. When you do that you end up with a flour that has a fiber content above white flour and below whole wheat flour. I'd put about 1/4 cup of wheatgerm in for each cup of flour. You would have to put less flour in because you're adding more dry ingredients.
 

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I much prefer whole grain pancakes, pastas, and breads to anything made with white flour. They just seem so much more substantial and have much better texture than their white flour counterparts. I guess I've never really understood why the majority of people seem to like the bland white stuff...
 

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I love the chewyness of white stuff, but I also love the whole-grainy goodness of ww bread. I just never really got to eat white stuff while I was anorixic so it's kind of cool, and there arent really any vegan companies making white bread. Ans my family only will eat my baking if it's white stuff (except my mom, she's cool
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White flour is the anti-food. It has very little nutritional value and converts directly to sugar. Diabetes comes from white starches and processed sugar.

Don't eat white flour--it does nothing for you.
 

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jwnyc: Growing children and teenagers need white flour. If kids get too much fiber from whole grains, they'll fill up too fast and not take in enough calories. THIS can be much more detremental to your health than a little sugar. Granted, whole grains are wonderful for you... But some people can't eat them all the time. People like me and Keegan NEED white flour.
 
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