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Have any of you been to the following colleges? And if so, what was it like? I'm trying to narrow down my college choices, and only have a few more weeks until application deadlines start to come. Oh and if you go to a completely awesome college that provides warm vegan food and has good professors then let me know.<br><br><br><br>
Calvin College (Grand Rapids Michigan) [3 hour drive away]<br><br>
Taylor University (somewhere Indianna) [4 hour drive away]<br><br>
Spring Arbor University (Spring Arbor Michigan) [1 hour drive away]<br><br>
Evergreen College (Olympia Washington) [36 hour drive away]<br><br><br><br><br><br>
thanks!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Calvin, Taylor, and Spring Arbor are all Christian colleges, and so I wouldn't have to worry about people smoking or drinking in the dorms, plus they are closer to where I live (AnnArbor MI), although thats not really too big a deal.<br><br><br><br>
Evergreen is far far away, but sounds really cool, an "alternative" college. They don't give letter grades and its sort of like a "make your own" degree, insted of a pre-packaged one, and they claim to have veg* options for meals.... I guess that guy JoshBlue from last comic standing went there. but like i said, its far away and there would be a greater chance to get stuck with a bad roomate.<br><br><br><br>
anyway yeah, if anyone of you have went to either of these 4, or have a college to recommend, let me know! thanks again.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Umm...yeah because non-christians are all terrible people to live with, and christians are always model roommates...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
Do any of these schools offer single rooms? If you're concerned about roommates you can look into that. And most schools here (in Canada, anyway) have a checklist of things for you to fill out so they can somewhat "match" you with someone, and then if things still go really badly, they are usually able to switch you.<br><br><br><br>
Try emailing the schools and ask for an example of a menu. Or better yet, see if some of the dorms have kitchens...or do they all just have dining halls?<br><br><br><br>
Anyway maybe just wait to see which ones you have actually been accepted to first. Or have you not applied yet? Or do you mean you have been accepted into these ones already? I'm not quite sure how the timeline works in the US so I'm kinda confused and not of much use. I just highly recommend visiting the schools if you are able to.<br><br><br><br>
ETA: You might have factored this in already, but what about the quality of the programs at these schools? It'd be great to have a nice roommate and good food, but what you are going to school for is school. I recommend making that the #1 priority, if you haven't already.
 

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Umm...yeah because non-christians are all terrible people to live with, and christians are always model roommates...</div>
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I didn't mean it like that. The christian schools above tend to have more strict rules concerning smoking and drinking. As in, its not allowed at all on campus. (no more occational drinks for me lol) My biggest concern would be getting a roomate that gets drunk all the time and smokes weed every night when im trying to study, and I feel theres less of a chance of that happening at a christian school that has more strict rules... at least I would hope so (although im sure it still happens...).<br><br>
I mean my only knowledge of dorms are from whats on TV and movies, so I dont really know how big of an issue it really is. i have no idea.<br><br>
I wouldn't mind a roomate of any "type", as I'm easy to get along with, "prep" "goth" "geek" whatever...thats not really the issue, I just wouldn't want to come home every night to a room full of smoke or whatever. (that and having a church on campus, etc.)<br><br><br><br>
I didn't want to live in a dorm at all, but trying the full time job/full time school living in an apartment and commuting thing hasn't worked out the best for me the past 2 years, so I think devoting myself more to education would help better.<br><br><br><br>
I am not excited to be 24 and living with an 19 year old, fresh out of highschool, hyperactive, and "finally free"... "dude, studying is for losers lolol" Wherever I go, I hope I don't get someone like that. I have a feeling I will be called gramps lol.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I think Evergreen has mostly apartment style dorms (own bedroom/shared living room) but this late in the year I'm sure they are all taken. I know spring arbor has aparment style for upper classmen, but yeah. I'm sure it wont be a problem, i just get stuck on details alot when making decisions. Even small things I take forever to choose, looking at every angle, playing possible scenarios in my head... meh.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Try emailing the schools and ask for an example of a menu. Or better yet, see if some of the dorms have kitchens...or do they all just have dining halls?<br></div>
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Anyway maybe just wait to see which ones you have actually been accepted to first. Or have you not applied yet?<br></div>
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I havent applied yet no. Monetery reasons. But unless they are full or place a huge importance on gpa, im pretty sure ill get in. I have a 32 ACT... *shrug*. I'm sure thats high enough to get me into one of these liberal arts colleges.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">You might have factored this in already, but what about the quality of the programs at these schools?</div>
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true. very true.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
thanks again, btw. appreciate it.
 

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I voted for Evergreen mainly because it's furthest away; I guess I was thinking it might be a good experience for you to be "exposed" to a slightly different student body than what you might be part of at the other colleges.<br><br><br><br>
And yeah, IMO I think it would be great if you had access to a kitchen so you wouldn't starve, although I don't know what kind of dining setup there is at the colleges you're considering, and you may not starve anyway. You might get lucky and meet some other Christian veg*ans at one of the Christian colleges (people you'd have someothing in common with), but that doesn't mean they wouldn't be at Evergreen.<br><br><br><br>
And I don't see why you should worry about being older than the other students. I don't think age should really matter when you're there for an education. And if you think 24 is "old" on campus, there are plenty of people out there who are <i>really</i> older (meaning those in their 30's, 40's, 50's) going back to school...<br><br><br><br>
sorry to be rambling with my post. I was thinking while I was posting. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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yeah, it wasn't so much that I would be 24 at college, but that I would be with a fresh out of highschool teenybopper.<br><br><br><br>
i actualy have a good friend thats in his mid 30's that recently went back to school.
 

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i envision my meals for the next four years consisting of half stale oranges and bananas. :scared: lol
 

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o_O ooOOooo...<br><br><br><br>
they also have "substance free" dorms... which.. does that mean all the other dorms aren't substance free? lol. cause they have dorms that "A living community for residents who are committed to a more environmentally conscious lifestyle, sustainable agriculture, and environmental activism." which is coooooool... unless they be smokin da weed in those... lol<br><br><br><br>
The themes at Evergreen are Quiet/Substance Free/Sustainability/Community Action/No Theme..... of course the deadline for choosing which housing you wanted was June 1st so... yeah... lol... dang.
 

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Taylor's very small. I visited it, but decided to go with Anderson University just north of it which was only a little larger but pretty much the same atmosphere. I doubt Taylor's very vegan friendly, but I don't know as I wasn't veg at the time. Anderson wasn't very veg friendly when I was there. I assume you are a Christian then? At most Christian school's you're going to be required to attend chapel services, which can be a bit boring if you're not Christian. I enjoyed my time at Anderson, but wish I had gone to a larger more diverse school if I had to do it over again. We did have a vegetarian group though which was cool, and they kind of influenced my decision to look into what veganism was all about. Our entire campus and all the dorms were substance free (no smoking outdoors even), which was fine with me. Taylor is probably the same way.<br><br><br><br>
You must live pretty close to me based on those travel times.
 

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I first went to UofM Ann Arbor for a year , then moved to TN and went to Freed Hardeman (which is a christian college). talk about culture shock!<br><br>
I spent a year there an dfinished out at MTSU, which is about half as large as UofM, but larger by far... anyhoo, I kind of liked the devotional thing twice a day, but I learned form this that college is what you make of it - regardless of what kind it is. Spend your time with the appropriate people and it's all good. Also, you usually have a week to two to change roomies if it's nto working out.
 

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I nearly went to Calvin (visted Taylor but it was too small for my taste) except that at the last minute my family moved to the west coast so I decided to go to George Fox University instead (Newberg, OR). I think I would have had more fun (since that's what college is about, afterall! Lol) at Calvin. Grand Rapids is a pretty dull city in itself, though. Calvin, if I recall, allows dancing, has an aggressive honors program, and doesn't have a dress code--all three of which were important to me at the time. Wasn't veggie then, so don't know about their food options.<br><br><br><br>
You mentioned that you hadn't applied to all the schools you're interested in due to monetary restrictions----APPLY ANYWAY. Enclose a note with your apps apologizing for not having enough money for the application fees and request that they consider you anyway. I did that with several of my applications (I applied to 10 universities or something---I was keeping my options open!) and ALL of them accepted my apps.<br><br><br><br>
Congrats on your ACT score, btw---that's excellent. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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My only advice to you is to check, check, and double check to make sure that all the colleges are accredited!! You don't want a degree from a college that is not accredited, as it won't be regarded as highly as a degree from one that is accredited. Also, its really difficult and awful to transfer, because none of your credits will count with an acredited university.<br><br>
So, thats my advice.
 

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Most dorms allow both drinking and smoking for children who are "of age". A substance free dorm won't allow any of that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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o_O ooOOooo...<br><br><br><br>
they also have "substance free" dorms... which.. does that mean all the other dorms aren't substance free? lol. cause they have dorms that "A living community for residents who are committed to a more environmentally conscious lifestyle, sustainable agriculture, and environmental activism." which is coooooool... unless they be smokin da weed in those... lol<br><br><br><br>
The themes at Evergreen are Quiet/Substance Free/Sustainability/Community Action/No Theme..... of course the deadline for choosing which housing you wanted was June 1st so... yeah... lol... dang.</div>
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hmmm...We don't know very much about what you're looking for (in positive terms) in a roomate. Nor do we know what you're are trying to get out of your education or what your prefered areas of study are.<br><br><br><br>
From friends I have that went into Christian Schools, it doesn't seem like there is that much less use of alcohol and pot there. Also, I would imagine that the vast majority of dorms prohibit smoking, but I'd also say that you're chances of getting a roomate who smokes weed is like 50-50 pretty much anywhere.<br><br><br><br>
Finally, there is more to getting admitted to school than ACT scores.<br><br><br><br>
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i'm not familiar with these schools, so i can't help there, but in regards to living in a dorm/having an 18 yo roommate--you could look into being a residence assistant...they usually live alone and recieve a break on tuition in exchange for enforcing some rules and helping/referring residents...just judging from your personality on vb, i think you'd probably be good at it...
 

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I voted for Evergreen, but that's just where I would want to go.<br><br>
It sounds like it would be more veg*n friendly, and just kinda unique.
 

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<a href="http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=evergreen+college&word2=spring+arbor+university" target="_blank">google fight!!!!</a><br><br>
lol. almost a tie. 7.95m to 7.89m<br><br>
but wow, taylor came in with 98.6m<br><br>
i wonder what life would be like if everyone made decisions based on googlefight heh
 

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yeah, it wasn't so much that I would be 24 at college, but that I would be with a fresh out of highschool teenybopper.<br><br><br><br>
i actualy have a good friend thats in his mid 30's that recently went back to school.</div>
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Yes I can understand that. When I lived on rez, I was 20/21 and there were a few people on my floor also in their 20's, a couple of them were 23/24 I believe. Meanwhile some of the kids there were only 17 years old. Now that I think of it, most of us 'old fogey's' had single rooms, lol. Everyone got along though. I noticed that those of us in our 20's didn't spend quite as much time hanging with our floormates and tended to do our own thing, which makes sense I guess. There were some immature "oh my god, I'm free!" kids around that I wanted to shoot, but maybe half the people were mature for their age, so those are the ones I made friends with.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway don't worry too much about it. When you go to fill out roommate preferences or whatever just mention that you are a bit older and more mature and the school will probably take that into consideration. Maybe they will give you a single room or even try to pair you up with someone else your age.<br><br><br><br>
And sorry for being snippy earlier, I guess it just rubbed me the wrong way. I have met too many self-proclaimed christians who drink like fish or smoke up or do worse things. So, going to a Christian school doesn't really guarantee anything imo...and another word of advice: rules are ALWAYS broken by at least someone(s). Well I guess that's not really advice, it is more of a heads up, lol. It's why I highly recommend getting a single room if you can.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck with your applications!
 

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Base where you go on the program and the degree you will come out with, not the food or living. Yea those are factors, but for the money that college costs, you need a degree that looks good.<br><br>
Stay close to a city, maybe that will make eating easier. Don't trust a school caf. They will say "we have a full veg*n section" and you will get there and find a salad bar and pasta. My school claims to have the menus online too- they never do.<br><br>
Look into the dorms, and ask if they have a 'wellness' floor or something to tht extent. My dorm has that. Everyone in it has to express interest my 'applying' and everyone signs a paper agreeing to obey with the policies.<br><br>
And definitely apply. You can't even decide where to go until they accept you.
 

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From friends I have that went into Christian Schools, it doesn't seem like there is that much less use of alcohol and pot there.</div>
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I agree. My school doesn't allow drinking in the dorms at all, no matter age, that doesn't stop it. My roomate my first year was drunk 60% of the time. Anyways....<br><br><br><br>
You should look at the programs they offer, the degree you want to get, and how sure you are of the degree you want. Make sure they are accredited and all that jazz. Also, visit the campuses!<br><br><br><br>
Hope you find a good school.
 
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