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this has probably been asked,<br><br>
but do the majority of VBers believe its acceptable to put ill animals down?
but do the majority of VBers believe its acceptable to put ill animals down?
putting animals to sleep
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Yes, the majority of VBers believe it's acceptable to put ill animals down. Assuming they're in pain and can't be cured or comforted.<br><br><br><br>
(In previous threads there have been a couple who are opposed to euthanizing any animals for any reason, but the vast majority feel it's in the animal's best interests not to suffer needlessly).
(In previous threads there have been a couple who are opposed to euthanizing any animals for any reason, but the vast majority feel it's in the animal's best interests not to suffer needlessly).
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Irizary</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
"Putting to sleep" is a ridiculous phrase to me, for whatever reason, good or bad, someone is getting killed. They're not "sleeping."</div>
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Well, duh. It's a euphemism.
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"Putting to sleep" is a ridiculous phrase to me, for whatever reason, good or bad, someone is getting killed. They're not "sleeping."</div>
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Well, duh. It's a euphemism.
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i used to be very against it, saying I would never do it. but then one of my dogs got a form of pancreatic cancer called insulinoma, the cancer caused her blood sugar to drop dangerously low and she would have seizures, a seizure is what prompted the vet visit and the cancer discovered.<br><br>
there was no cure, no treatment other than toxic chemotherapy drugs which would have bought her maybe 3 months more time, and that time being spent carted off to the vet and feeling sick to me was not quality of life. the vets at tufts and angell memorial ( i went for second opinion ) all said she had 3-6 months tops to live.<br><br>
well i researched natural remedies and i treated her with herbs etc. and she had good quality of life for 2 YEARS ........but toward the end of that 2 years she started to decline, nothing i did would help, she stopped eating, the seizures were coming left and right, she couldnt walk. it got to the point where her quality of life just wasnt there, and hubby and i had to make the hardest decision i ever had to make, we had to let her go.<br><br>
so we did, and she went peacefully and with hubby hugging her. I stayed home with the kids because i had no one to watch them and they were far too young to understand all this, so i said my LONG goodbye at home.<br><br>
but in a nutshell, i believe its one of the most caring compassionate things you can do for your beloved pets if needed due to terminal illness and poor life quality.<br><br>
i also happen to believe we should be able to do this for humans too, i have seen my share of human suffering when i worked inpatient oncology as an RN......and trust me........it would be the compassionate thing to do in a lot of circumstances.
there was no cure, no treatment other than toxic chemotherapy drugs which would have bought her maybe 3 months more time, and that time being spent carted off to the vet and feeling sick to me was not quality of life. the vets at tufts and angell memorial ( i went for second opinion ) all said she had 3-6 months tops to live.<br><br>
well i researched natural remedies and i treated her with herbs etc. and she had good quality of life for 2 YEARS ........but toward the end of that 2 years she started to decline, nothing i did would help, she stopped eating, the seizures were coming left and right, she couldnt walk. it got to the point where her quality of life just wasnt there, and hubby and i had to make the hardest decision i ever had to make, we had to let her go.<br><br>
so we did, and she went peacefully and with hubby hugging her. I stayed home with the kids because i had no one to watch them and they were far too young to understand all this, so i said my LONG goodbye at home.<br><br>
but in a nutshell, i believe its one of the most caring compassionate things you can do for your beloved pets if needed due to terminal illness and poor life quality.<br><br>
i also happen to believe we should be able to do this for humans too, i have seen my share of human suffering when i worked inpatient oncology as an RN......and trust me........it would be the compassionate thing to do in a lot of circumstances.
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Well, duh. It's a euphemism.</div>
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uh, hey, no kidding <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
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Well, duh. It's a euphemism.</div>
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uh, hey, no kidding <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
">My mom's golden retriever had cancer. They went through a couple of rounds of chemotherapy with her, but it kept coming back. The third time Nicki (her dog) ended up so sick that she couldn't move without being in pain and could barely breathe. My mom had the vet do everything they could until they finally ran out of options and there wasn't anything left. They couldn't make her stay in that kind of living hell. After Nicki died, they grieved as if they had lost one of their own children. They still do, but it was the only thing that they could do to help Nicki. I know that I wouldn't want my Mom to be in that kind of pain and suffering either. I would hope that someone would help me if I ever got into a situation like that too.
We had our beautiful golden retriever Talia operated on twice for cancer. The second time they said that they hadn't been able to get it all out. So we put her on chemo, but it was too much for her poor body so she had to be taken off it. We decided that she won't get anymore treatment. Luckily it hasn't come back so far but when it does (and no doubt it will) we will eventually have to end it for her. That was difficult to type. I've got such a world of pain coming for me.
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I perform euthanasias.<br><br><br><br>
I do it for behavioral and medical.<br><br><br><br>
It's peaceful and pain-free. There is a method available to make every animal comfortable. I know how my dogs will be euthed if it ever comes to that and I take comfort knowing I will be able to offer them a dignified and peaceful and painfree/fear free death.<br><br><br><br>
It is one of the kindest things you can do.<br><br><br><br>
Just a word though: If you shelter offers relinquish for euthanasia, please don't do it. Pay the extra money and do it at the vets office with you or have someone come into your home to do it. Don't make the last 24 hours of your animal's life be in a kennel.<br><br><br><br>
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I do it for behavioral and medical.<br><br><br><br>
It's peaceful and pain-free. There is a method available to make every animal comfortable. I know how my dogs will be euthed if it ever comes to that and I take comfort knowing I will be able to offer them a dignified and peaceful and painfree/fear free death.<br><br><br><br>
It is one of the kindest things you can do.<br><br><br><br>
Just a word though: If you shelter offers relinquish for euthanasia, please don't do it. Pay the extra money and do it at the vets office with you or have someone come into your home to do it. Don't make the last 24 hours of your animal's life be in a kennel.<br><br><br><br>
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Absolutely. I also support ending a human beings physical pain when there is no cure and they wish to go. I don't think anyone should be made to suffer.<br><br>
I had to put my guinea pig to sleep last year. By the time I knew she was ill and took her to the vet she had advanced to the point where her lungs were shutting down. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> The vet told me they could put her on oxygen and give her maybe a few more hours or she could help her go more peacefully now. I held her, pet her head and she was gone in a few seconds. No more suffering.<br><br>
We put a cat down who had congestive heart failure too. The vet offered meds that would give him, maybe 6 months, but also told us he was in immense pain so we'd have to have him constantly on pain meds too. There was no cure and we weren't convinced 6 months of pain and misery was what he would want.<br><br>
I took my grandmothers dog in also. She was 15 and had severe arthritis and was deaf and blind. She couldn't even get up off the floor anymore and would often go to the bathroom on herself and be forced to lie in it until someone found her. I finally convinced her to let me take her in and I held her on my lap and stroked her ears. She was finally at peace.<br><br>
I don't hesitate if the pet is in pain and there is no cure for the illness. I love them too much to make them live out a life of pain just so I don't have to have the guilt of making the choice. (I'm not saying everyone who is against it feels this way, it's just MY feelings about it).<br><br>
Like I said I support the same compassion for humans.<br><br>
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I had to put my guinea pig to sleep last year. By the time I knew she was ill and took her to the vet she had advanced to the point where her lungs were shutting down. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"> The vet told me they could put her on oxygen and give her maybe a few more hours or she could help her go more peacefully now. I held her, pet her head and she was gone in a few seconds. No more suffering.<br><br>We put a cat down who had congestive heart failure too. The vet offered meds that would give him, maybe 6 months, but also told us he was in immense pain so we'd have to have him constantly on pain meds too. There was no cure and we weren't convinced 6 months of pain and misery was what he would want.<br><br>
I took my grandmothers dog in also. She was 15 and had severe arthritis and was deaf and blind. She couldn't even get up off the floor anymore and would often go to the bathroom on herself and be forced to lie in it until someone found her. I finally convinced her to let me take her in and I held her on my lap and stroked her ears. She was finally at peace.<br><br>
I don't hesitate if the pet is in pain and there is no cure for the illness. I love them too much to make them live out a life of pain just so I don't have to have the guilt of making the choice. (I'm not saying everyone who is against it feels this way, it's just MY feelings about it).<br><br>
Like I said I support the same compassion for humans.<br><br>
Mary
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I'm for it. Last summer my horse, Orinoco, broke his leg, and I stayed with him and stroked him while the vet put him down. I'm glad we were able to do that, since it was a bad break - the bone was shattered, and he was in quite a bit of pain (even though he was probably still in shock right up to the end). There's no way that leg could have healed, he'd have had a horrible time if we hadn't euthanised him.
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I'm for it.<br><br>
One of my rats had an injury that would have lead to infection after infection. He was so unhealthy because of it, he was underweight and his teeth were almost transparent(they're supposed to be orange)! If we had kept him alive, it would have been stressful for him because he'd be getting medicine everyday for the rest of his life, and getting his teeth clipped every month.
One of my rats had an injury that would have lead to infection after infection. He was so unhealthy because of it, he was underweight and his teeth were almost transparent(they're supposed to be orange)! If we had kept him alive, it would have been stressful for him because he'd be getting medicine everyday for the rest of his life, and getting his teeth clipped every month.
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My golden retriever Cookie was out wandering beside the road next to our house. She had never done it before and would get in trouble if she did go near the road. Well, a combine was going down the road and as it reached our house it startled Cookie and she jumped up to attack it. She was caught under the tires and crushed. The man driving was nice enough to stop and tell us. We rushed her to the country vet, the closest we could get to. She had a collapsed lung and was just barely breathing. The vet said there was nothing he could do, but we could try taking her 22 miles to the city to get help there. She was fading fast, so we decided to euthanize her. The vet went to get the syringe as we said our goodbyes. Before he could put her to sleep, she passed on.<br><br><br><br>
I have nothing against putting an animal down humanely if nothing else can be done, or if the animal is suffering. In animals with disease or cancer, letting them life out as much of their lives as they can and enjoying what time they have left is best, until they get too bad.
I have nothing against putting an animal down humanely if nothing else can be done, or if the animal is suffering. In animals with disease or cancer, letting them life out as much of their lives as they can and enjoying what time they have left is best, until they get too bad.
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It was too late for it to do him any good as far as prolonging life, but may have made his last days less painful. The doctor refused (not suprisingly), so my father asked if my grandfather could PLEASE have some more morophine, as he was in horrible pain all the time. The doctor said no. When my father asked why he said, "I don't want him to get addicted."<br><br>
If that's not stupidity, I don't know what is.</div>
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That is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How the hell did that doctor pass medical school?<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, I'm all for putting animals down to end pain and suffering.
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It was too late for it to do him any good as far as prolonging life, but may have made his last days less painful. The doctor refused (not suprisingly), so my father asked if my grandfather could PLEASE have some more morophine, as he was in horrible pain all the time. The doctor said no. When my father asked why he said, "I don't want him to get addicted."<br><br>
If that's not stupidity, I don't know what is.</div>
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That is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How the hell did that doctor pass medical school?<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, I'm all for putting animals down to end pain and suffering.
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Its different now with pain control in cancer patients, at least where i worked when i worked inpatient oncology, and the docs i worked with.<br><br>
as an RN i had a range of morphine i could give the patient, they mostly all were on drips at the end to make them as comfortable as possible. i could turn it up if needed, to a higher dose....... to ease them to the next life and make them comfortable. it really is foolish to deny pain relief to anyone at end of life
as an RN i had a range of morphine i could give the patient, they mostly all were on drips at the end to make them as comfortable as possible. i could turn it up if needed, to a higher dose....... to ease them to the next life and make them comfortable. it really is foolish to deny pain relief to anyone at end of life
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