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I used to be a fan, but not so much anymore. The great characters and showmen are long gone from the federations.</div>
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That applies to a lot of people I'm afraid. I don't have cable so I'm not able to watch it as much these days. Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Randy Savage are three of my favorites from past years. More recently I'd say it's Chris Jericho and CM Punk. I've been a fan for the most part since 1992 and don't see that changing.
 

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CM Punk is my favorite in the business right now, and not just because he has the Straight Edge like me. It's because he's a damn fine entertainer.
 

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CM Punk is my favorite in the business right now, and not just because he has the Straight Edge like me. It's because he's a damn fine entertainer.</div>
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CM Punk is among the performers that I find to be a complete joke. Terrible gimmick, mediocre ring work, but I will admit he is decent on the microphone. He probably would be more palatable to me if there were other wrestlers that could help put him over.
 

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That applies to a lot of people I'm afraid. I don't have cable so I'm not able to watch it as much these days. Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Randy Savage are three of my favorites from past years. More recently I'd say it's Chris Jericho and CM Punk. I've been a fan for the most part since 1992 and don't see that changing.</div>
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I liked Jericho early in his career, but now I find him quite boring. Like Punk, he would probably fare better in my eyes if he had quality wrestlers around him that could help put him over. Savage was an epic performer, the likes of which we probably will never see again.<br><br>
If I were managing the WWE, a few things I would do to make the shows better:<br>
1.) Put together stables of wrestlers again and let them stay together for a long period of time (think Horsemen, Million Dollar Corporation, etc.). This allows you to utilize B level performers better while giving them time to grow into bigger and better angles.<br>
2.) Managers. Bring them back. Managers who can work the microphone allow young wrestlers without those skills to get over with fans, and give them someone to learn from.<br>
3.) Tag teams. Go back to using real ones. Throwing two random wrestlers together to let them hold the titles and then splitting them quickly doesn't get anyone ever, and makes it hard to build long term heat.
 

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Used to watch it. I think of it as, well, like a man's soap opera... A bunch of over dramatized situations and bad acting, and then they fight lol.
 

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I have liked pro-wrestling for a long bit now used to watch the shows and saturday night specials PPVs w/my baby bro......my fave wrestlers of all time are The Rockers Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels.....met Shawn at an event once he is a sweetie......My fave now is Kane......it used to be John Cena but he is annoying me lately for some reason......I used to be a bigg fan of the late and great Owen Hart and his brother Bret Hart.<br><br>
Peace<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ChocolateReign</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949407"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
CM Punk is among the performers that I find to be a complete joke. Terrible gimmick, mediocre ring work, but I will admit he is decent on the microphone. He probably would be more palatable to me if there were other wrestlers that could help put him over.</div>
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Yes, he's a joke - and jokes are a good thing. What would life be without jokes? He's a frigging genius. Have you heard his ringside commentary? The man can do anything.<br><br><a href="http:" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duzwm9GWSN8</a>
 

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Daniel Bryan is also one of my favorites. I haven't seen all that much of his matches but I've really liked what I've seen. He won Money In The Bank recently. He is vegan as well. Very few wrestlers are vegetarian or vegan so it would be nice to see him win one of the big titles.
 

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I liked Jericho early in his career, but now I find him quite boring. Like Punk, he would probably fare better in my eyes if he had quality wrestlers around him that could help put him over. Savage was an epic performer, the likes of which we probably will never see again.<br><br>
If I were managing the WWE, a few things I would do to make the shows better:<br>
1.) Put together stables of wrestlers again and let them stay together for a long period of time (think Horsemen, Million Dollar Corporation, etc.). This allows you to utilize B level performers better while giving them time to grow into bigger and better angles.<br>
2.) Managers. Bring them back. Managers who can work the microphone allow young wrestlers without those skills to get over with fans, and give them someone to learn from.<br>
3.) Tag teams. Go back to using real ones. Throwing two random wrestlers together to let them hold the titles and then splitting them quickly doesn't get anyone ever, and makes it hard to build long term heat.</div>
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I agree with all 3, the last 2 in particular. I don't think the Undertaker would have been the same if he didn't have Paul Bearer with him in the beginning. There are a lot of wrestlers who may not be able to do mic work all that well so a manager would help. The tag team division has been virtually non-existant in recent years so it would be nice if WWE put emphasis on one. TNA has a good one though.
 

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They're not trained actors. Put actors in a wrestling ring and I think they'd fail as well. Wrestlers are good with fight scenes but can't act. Actors are good with acting but can't do the fight scenes. I don't see a big difference.
 

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They're not trained actors. Put actors in a wrestling ring and I think they'd fail as well. Wrestlers are good with fight scenes but can't act. Actors are good with acting but can't do the fight scenes. I don't see a big difference.</div>
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Actually the bad acting (and the drama) was something I felt made it similar to soap operas, where even the trained actors can't act. That's why I'm glad it at least leads to a fight. I'd rather watch crazy stunts, but I understand the need to give it a story, even if that story is as simple as the the need to make someone remove his mask, thereby completely destroying his life in a way that only a Mexican wrestling fan could understand.
 

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It's not as good as it used to be <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:">
 

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For some great entertainment, you can search for your favorite wrestlers on YouTube, and you will often find some of their greatest matches in their entirety. I sometimes stumble upon classics that I heard about as a kid that I never saw back in the day.
 
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