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Okeydoke, some of you know that in June I will be in America and in mostly rural areas. I'll be on greyhound buses for about 4 days (not in one hit but close enough). I'm thinking that I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet and not avoid dairy in order to actually survive in those areas where there aren't many options for me... so my question is this. How soon should I start reintegrating dairy into my diet? I am only having tiny amounts of dairy every now and then at the moment. (Say, I had a choc bar the other day, not usual for me). I'm not lactose intolerant. I don't want to go overboard while I'm over there (if I can get away with not eating it, I won't, but neither will I starve just to keep myself guiltfree). So should I reintroduce it to my diet beforehand or just (keeping in mind I'm not intolerant) see what happens...?
 

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Shewolf,<br><br><br><br>
As for dairy, try lower-fat fruit yogurt; the more sugar the better. For some reaosn, it does not aggravate my allergies nearly as much as milk (though I drink it anyways because I'm insane).<br><br><br><br>
Also, I have experience doing a 7 day Greyhound bus trip, so I can give you some food pointers, if you wish.
 

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Um, I think you can still avoid dairy on your trip. How long are you staying? It might not be the absolute healthiest trip, but certainly you can avoid dairy. Pick up Calcium OJ at 7-11 if calcium is a concern.<br><br><br><br>
If you do encounter the random slice of bread with whey or skeptical salad dressing.. it shouldn't be a large enough portion of dairy that you'd have to worry about getting sick. I say don't bother with the reintegrating it, just wait and see what happens.
 

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Last summer, I travelled from Edmonton, Alberta to Kitchener, Ontario, by Greyhound, stayed 2 days for a wedding with the insane members of my family (the normal ones stayed home) and then travelled back home.<br><br><br><br>
I attempted to be as vegan as possible (though everyone knows my eating habits) just to see if it was possible and to let people on vegweb know what it was like. HEre are my experiences:<br><br><br><br>
In 50% of the places we stopped, I will not find anything that was even vegetarian (in the VERY loosest sense of the term) beyond french fries, $3 bananas, chips, chocolate and donuts.<br><br><br><br>
In 100% of the places, the only for sure vegan foods available were chips and water.<br><br><br><br>
All of the stops were at smoke-filled rural diners called "Burgers are Us" who did not know what a salad was, A&W (who also does not have vegetarian foods on their menus) donut shops or gas stations with vending machines.<br><br><br><br>
On the way to ON, I carried with me instant foods (oatmeal, soups, potatos) so I could mix them up with hot water. No where would let me have hot water. No where would let me use their microwave, even after I offered to pay for it.<br><br><br><br>
On the way back, I carried nuts, dried fruits, as much water was I could carry and garnola bars. After 3 days, you will never want to ever ever see another garnola bar. Ever. If I had my time back, I would have brough a can opener and a couple small cans of beans in tomato sauce and eaten them cold.<br><br><br><br>
Bring as much water as you can. 600mL bottles of water are usually $0.75CDN at the grocery store in Edmonton and I was paying $2+ for each. In the first 3 days of the journey, I spent over half of my spending money in water alone.<br><br><br><br>
If you have a choice between eating an egg or dairy, eat whichever one used to give you the least amount of gas. FYI <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
If you will be on the bus for more then 48, make sure to consume any fruits you can get your hands on. Bring a couple cans of fruit cocktail. TRUST ME. Your bowels will thank you. TRUST ME. DON'T buy bran muffins! Whatever you do -- DON'T. Oh god, on day 3 I learned why.<br><br><br><br>
Bring sleeping pills and/or enough money to get plastered on the stop overs. It makes the time go faster.<br><br><br><br>
I packed 3 days of food in a cooler - it's about 3/4 the length of my arm long and about 8inches across and deep. So, it wasn't big and made a great stool for my feet when I wanted it, and also fit in the overhead bins.<br><br><br><br>
At this point, you are wondering if I had a good time. Well, the trip was fairly boring, but I did meet some great people of all ages. And it was an adventure to not bath for 6 days of a 8 day period. I'd like to do it again, but with someone to complain to the next time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Have fun. It's an adventure!
 

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Thanks Krista! My problem is I'm fairly fussy, I hate OJ like the plague (it makes me feel sick) and I'm not big on fruit yoghurt (in fact yoghurt is another thing that makes my tummy uneasy). That's exactly what I was worried about the food stops... so I will try and stock up in Spokane for the trip to and stock up in Virginia or Ely on the trip back... fruit, bread, health bars etc sound like the way to go, it's only 4 days out of my trip after all so I should be eating okay for the rest of it.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the advice!
 

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In the states it is very common for gas stations to have microwaves for customers as well as hot water.<br><br><br><br>
since you are not going to be on a bus continuously i think you will be able to have a small cooler that will hold enough food for the indiviual trips and then you can restock whenever you hit a larger city.<br><br><br><br>
on our trip this past weekend i was surprised that i found us plenty of vegan (junk) foods in the convience stores. junk food is a must have on all road trips!<br><br><br><br>
places i know you can get vegan fast food is subway and taco bell. i would print out a list of all the places that has vegan foods from the fast food thread to keep on you.<br><br><br><br>
as far as dairy i would think milk would make you sick, but egg in foods probably will not. unforunately our labels may be different then yours, so you may have trouble figuring out what is safe.<br><br><br><br>
so if i were you<br><br><br><br>
i would have PB&J, bread, nuts, dried fruit, raw fruit, a few healthy snacks, small jar of salsa w/chips, frozen water, instant soup,(if i had a cooler) vegan lunch slices & mustard, small container of hummus w/crackers, and multivitamins. head phone CD player and a great book. a book of crosswords would help kill time. reading the news paper from ever city would kill time and maybe be interesting plus a good laugh. our tabloids are of great humor.<br><br><br><br>
with a small cooler most of the food would fit in the cooler, so i would have very little to bother with.<br><br><br><br>
hope this helps and have a great trip, shewolf.
 

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BTW, I advise AGAIN any food that will go bad. Even though it's a cooler, those buses can get hot, even with the air conditioning on. The coolers will not keep food the proper cold temperature after 12 hours. FYI I tried the veggie meats; didnt work. I threw them out, as they were slimy after 24 hours...and the frozen bottles of water were gone after 12 hours.<br><br><br><br>
I envy everyone who can read on the bus; I get motion sick if I do. Luckily, for most of my trip, there were 10 of us travelling together and we would take the back of the bus and try very hard not to share our seats. Then, we'd stretch across the seats and sleep.<br><br><br><br>
Oh! The important thing to remember when sleeping...you gotta make sure you're wedged into place, or one bump and you're on the floor. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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we traveled with veggie slices and they traveled well as long as we added more ice at each of our stops. if you do not let your cooler run out of ice most things will be fine for a day. she will not be traveling for 4 straight days. i was under the impression she will travel a day then stay somewhere then travel again, so whenever she is at a place for a while she can put her stuff in the fridge to keep it cold.
 

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Travel is two days at a time... a bit over two days to, and a bit under two days back... I'm not big on veggie slice yet anyway so I won't feel like I'm missing out...<br><br><br><br>
You guys are da bomb!
 

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I live in rural America every day and manage to stay pretty much dairy free! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> It definitely has it's challenges but you can do it. I wouldn't worry too much about trace amounts of dairy in things but I don't think you should totally integrate dairy back into your diet. When you stop at places, ask if they will make you something special that isn't on the menu. You'd be surprised at how accomodating people can be. If it helps, tell them you have an extreme dairy allergy. 7-11s and convenience stores can be great. I can't imagine they would refuse you hot water or use of the microwave. If you can bring soy milk, you can always have cereal. How about some of those soup cups with dehydrated soups in them? Just add hot water. Good luck!
 
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