[troub]

Which is <span style="text-decoration:underline;">least</span> ethical, and why.<br><br><br><br>
1)a hunter killing a deer and eating it, putting its antlers above the fireplace and all.<br><br>
2)granmda eating a mcdonalds hamburger<br><br>
3)little Jonny killing 150 ants with a magnifying glass<br><br>
4)equal

 

[MZCsmpsns]

I think for the fact that either way it's killing something, they all are equally unethical.

 

[troub]

aye.<br><br>
I find it funny when someone says "how could a hunter kill an innocent deer? how heartless" while eating a hamburger.

 

[inie]

Nah, I find the killing of the ants the most unethical, since it is probably done out of cruelty, or for the fun of it.

 

[Amy SF]

I have a feeling choice #4 is going to be the big winner of this particular poll. That's what I voted for.

 

[GhostUser]

All.

 

[Shadowlee]

I agree with inie. The question is "which is worse" - so I'm accepting the fact that they are all killing and then judging from there. Hunting or eating meat for food is very different to killing for fun.

 

[GhostUser]

i agree that killing for fun (little johnny) is worse...and though, i don't think hunting and eating a deer is any worse than eating cows, chickens, etc there is something about hanging a dead deer head on the wall that almost makes me wonder if the hunter is not of the same mindset as little johnny?

 

[kpickell]

Definetely #2...<br><br>
Because (re #1) I believe hunting for food is ethically balanced and (re #2) the ethical-weight of insects is marginal. But (re #2) the ethical implications surrounding the mistreatment of cows raised for commercial slaughter is much more clear cut, so it's an easy choice for me.

 

[raw jess]

I picked little Johnny. As it was said before, he killed them for pure fun.

 

[SavedbytheBlood]

Jonny is a kid right? Does he even know any better. Haha. I don't know maybe, maybe not. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br><br><br>
Do I have to vote? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[troub]

is ignorance an excuse?<br><br>
there within lies your answer

 

[SavedbytheBlood]

Umm nooooo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br><br><br>
I just thought little Jonny was a child because you called him little. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[MaryC1999]

I chose the ants.<br><br>
I don't necessarily believe killing an animal to food is wrong. I don't like the abuses on farms BUT I have to choose that killing an animal for pure fun is probably the worst of the worst.<br><br>
Mary

 

[Poppy]

I picked Grandma. She's been around a while - she's knows about factory farming and chooses to ignore it. She's looking for a quick and cheap way to fill her oversized paunch and heads for McDs. She would like to run over the Peta demonstrators on the sidewalk, but instead complains to her husband about the naked sinners making her uncomfortable as she eats her Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese and large-sized beef-flavored french fries. This is America after all!

 

[Dirty Martini]

The ants.<br><br><br><br>
1) The hunter killed the animal for food. What he does with the remains is a matter of taste, not ethics.<br><br>
2) It is socially acceptable to eat meat and certainly within our society's ethics to eat animals for food<br><br>
3) While insects are lower on the animal "totem pole" of human regard, malice (or even randomly killing insects) is certainly considered to be an unappealing trait - therefore I vote for Jonny's Fun.

 

[Dirty Martini]

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I picked Grandma. She's been around a while - she's knows about factory farming and chooses to ignore it. She's looking for a quick and cheap way to fill her oversized paunch and heads for McDs. She would like to run over the Peta demonstrators on the sidewalk, but instead complains to her husband about the naked sinners making her uncomfortable as she eats her Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese and large-sized beef-flavored french fries. This is America after all!</div>
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I can feel the vegetaria compassion oozing in this post! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:"><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> My grandmother had NO idea about factory farming when I was talking to her about it a couple of years ago. She grew up on a farm and (quite sweetly) thought that modern farming was relatively similar.

 

[MaryC1999]

<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>OregonAmy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I can feel the vegetaria compassion oozing in this post! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:"><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> My grandmother had NO idea about factory farming when I was talking to her about it a couple of years ago. She grew up on a farm and (quite sweetly) thought that modern farming was relatively similar.</div>
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So did mine. She still thinks I'm lying to her. She just says "No, no, *I* grew up on a farm. Those animals are their lives. They take good care of them".<br><br>
She's 76. I guess back in the 40's they DID take good care of the animals.<br><br>
Age might be more of a deterrent from knowing the truth as back in the day, these abuses weren't as commonplace as they are now.<br><br>
Mary

 

[Dirty Martini]

Yeah. My grandmother recently turned 85. Things were different in the 30s (and 40s)

 

[kpickell]

When I voted, I wasn't really paying much attention to WHO was doing the act. I was voting more along the lines of the action itself.