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I'd like to see some literature that backs that up Digger. If it's really out there, I'd like to read it. I don't call Esselstyne's or Furhman's low fat diets freakish at all. most of us are just all fat and sugar addicted, since they typically go to gether in sweets. and when was the last time Clinton ate fish? last i knew, he had been vegan for awhile, and the fish consumption was previously when he first started the diet.

I don't believe whole food vegans or nutritarians as Furhman calls them, are having higher mortality than those who consume dairy and eggs. At this point in time, just don't believe it.
 
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