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I try to stay away from PETA.<br><br><br><br>
Although most of their videos are informative and helped me turn veggie, I think they go about animal liberation in the wrong way. They seem too radical. Although I believe in animal rights, I don't think people should be forced to do the right thing. It's like being told to say sorry. You don't mean it and means nothing, but you're forced to do it because if you don't you'd be ridiculed and punished.<br><br><br><br>
Raising awareness and helping people make the right choice is my preferred method. It's slower, but a lot more successful IMO.<br><br><br><br>
And I'm annoyed that when ever I say I'm veggie people assume I'm a PETA activist and will start spray painting the walls if they don't do what I say. They give the whole veg*n thing a bad name.<br><br><br><br>
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I don't really know all that much about PeTA (why is their name capitalised in that funny way? I think that's how you're meant to do it, but...why is ethical so tiny?) but my first impression is: their websites are helpful, their stunts are stupid.
 

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It isn't capitalised in that way. The proper capitalization is PETA, which is what they use in all of their text coorespondence, and on their website. Only in their graphical logo is the e lowercase and that is to put emphasis on the e, to stress the "ethical" part of their name.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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It isn't capitalised in that way. The proper capitalization is PETA, which is what they use in all of their text coorespondence, and on their website. Only in their graphical logo is the e lowercase and that is to put emphasis on the e, to stress the "ethical" part of their name.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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ooooh. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><br><br>
They shouldn't have such a confusing logo then! My other gripe about PETA is now that "they have a stupid logo". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dunce.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dunce:">
 

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How are they "anti-democratic"?</div>
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They conduct campaigns that the majority of their members/contributors do not support. It's basically a dictatorship ruled by Ingrid Newkirk. They can be ruthless because they don't have to get the approval of their "members"/contributors.
 

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PETA's primary strength seems to lie in getting publicity. They certainly attract their share of it. I used to support them, but I think they've gotten a bit too radical. I now send most of my donations to Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah. They have a very positive, upbeat message and have saved the lives of many companion animals.<br><br><br><br>
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I don't always agree with their publicity campaigns, but I am a proud member and I do support them.</div>
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Ditto...me too
 

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I suppose I am with the folks who don't always like what some of their folks do (destruction of property comes to mind), but I understand why they do it. It seems the only way to reach people these days is to shock them. PETA is very good at shocking people. My wife is a card carrying member and it was some of the videos on their website that gave me the final nudge toward becoming vegetarian.
 

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There are some things about PETA I like, but some things they do really repulse me. I don't support them. I like Farm Sanctuary and Vegan Outreach better.
 

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I have A LOT of problems with PETA. As others have mentioned, I have morals in other areas than animals rights such as an end to sexism and sexual exploitation of both women and men, and I don't believe in using force as a means to acheive a movement (They may not use physical force but they certainly use verbal force). I respect them for their cause and contributions, but I do not support them. Also, I have gotten a lot of backlash from people when I mention I fight for animal rights, who will straight up ignore me or start yelling at me because they immediately associate me and my cause with things they have seen from PETA.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
That is why I support the organizations that work from a more grassroots level, focusing on pushing for policy change and earning respect through passive versus aggressive education. I applaud organizations such as In Defense Of Animals, Farm Sanctuary, and The Humane Society who have gained respect from ALL SIDES over the years, and I think that this is the way change should happen.
 

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I suppose I am with the folks who don't always like what some of their folks do (destruction of property comes to mind), but I understand why they do it. It seems the only way to reach people these days is to shock them. PETA is very good at shocking people. My wife is a card carrying member and it was some of the videos on their website that gave me the final nudge toward becoming vegetarian.</div>
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PETA members destroy property?
 

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I don't necessarily dislike PETA, but I am worried that they turn off more people to the cause than they turn on. I see a lot more "People Eating Tasty Animals" bumper stickers than I see actual PETA ones. That makes me think that perhaps PETA should be rethinking some of their marketing/publicity strategies. I have rarely seen such blind hatred of a group as I have with PETA and it seems to be growing, even among many folks that might be sympathetic to their cause.<br><br><br><br>
Direct activism doesn't always require public support for some success in certain situations, but to be truly instrumental in changing a situation that is this large and ingrained into our culture, you have to be able to reach many more people than just those on the fringe.<br><br><br><br>
Recently, something that made me think was seeing some people's reaction to PETA's involvement in a pretty mild, animal welfare-centric campaign against the long term chaining of dogs outside. Now this is an animal abuse issue that a lot of people probably would agree with. But what suprised me was reading a huge thread about it on fark.com and seing the overwhelming majority of the people automatically dismiss it because they saw the four letters P.E.T.A. attached to it. That's not good and starts to seem a little counter productive in my eyes.
 

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At first glance, PETA sounds like a good thing. But Im of the opinion that their claims are not always truthful and I question their ethics very often. They make irrational statements at times. I take what they tote with a grain of salt. I'd rather get the facts for myself than rely on their version.
 

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They are extremists in a bad way. I'd rather support the ASPCA.
 

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I support PETA goals but sometimes I think they fall into the trap of thinking that the end justifies the means. It doesn't.<br><br><br><br>
However, I still support them overall. I think their work is important.
 

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Well some of the PETA information was having a positive effect at our shelter in helping people go vegetarian, or at least consider the issue. But then someone <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/wonderbull.13367094" target="_blank">wore this shirt</a> and now people are rethinking their position on PETA. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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I do not support PETA's activities. I do support the "Idea" behind Peta. I think of PETA as a performance art troup. There is something there philosophically, but throwing fake blood and buying dogs at a shelter to kill them in a van and so on really is more than I can take. They have a sad sort of college freshman art student approach to activism. I just don't understand their brand of activism, I guess. Whenever they do something, I slap my head and think, "those Dorks at PETA are at it again, screwing things up for the animals" or whatever. (And I totally hope someone in power there sees this, but I have a feeling that Like Bush, they never read anything except favorable comments).
 

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Recently, something that made me think was seeing some people's reaction to PETA's involvement in a pretty mild, animal welfare-centric campaign against the long term chaining of dogs outside. Now this is an animal abuse issue that a lot of people probably would agree with. But what suprised me was reading a huge thread about it on fark.com and seing the overwhelming majority of the people automatically dismiss it because they saw the four letters P.E.T.A. attached to it.</div>
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If people are going to dismiss an argument out of hand because they don't like the person/group that promotes it - especially with such a no-brainer like long-term chaining of dogs outside - they aren't independent enough thinkers to revise their thinking about animals from what this culture promotes in the first place. That's not PETA's fault. AR, and even some of AW, requires that people think beyond what "everyone else" thinks is o.k.<br><br><br><br>
PETA may do some campaigning that not everyone in AR even likes, but I believe that most of the reason why PETA is disliked by the general population is not because of sometimes silly tactics, but because they have goals that people do not want to accept. Pull these people aside and explain AR not using the term "PETA" and they will still be hostile to the ideas, now they just have a name on which to slap their hostility. In most cases it's just blaming the messenger.
 

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I will say it a million times......<br><br>
'nodoby' likes to be yelled at for something they are doing wrong (lets not forget that most people donot think they are doing wrong by eating meat, wearing fur etc).....Again, go back to being a child, athlete, student etc...How often did you LIKE being screamed at by your teacher, coach or parent for something you did wrong?<br><br>
PETA needs to look at threads like this and re-think their position. With their exposure to the world already they can help make more changes quicker if they would just 'chill' and calm down. Most reactions to being screamed at is rebellion.<br><br><br><br>
I know a PETA person on here is going to get upset about this post, but this IS the reality. Look at what fellow vegan and vegetarians are saying about PETA in this thread and others. If we think PETA's actions are wrong, what do you think the general population thinks?.............actually they already do think this way.<br><br><br><br>
Time for a change!<br><br><br><br>
Please don't respond with 'all the good they have done so far'.,...that is old and worn out....listen to the what like minded people are saying about PETA. If PETA and their reps cannot accept these comments it just goes to show their arrogance that 'they are always right' in their ways.
 

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Yes. I remember one campaign where people were throwing buckets of red paint (meant to be blood) on fur coats and buildings. That is destruction of property. As I said before, I don't always support the methods they take to achieve a goal, but I do support them.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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PETA members destroy property?</div>
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