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ok... this is a real 'rookie' question *hangs head in shame* and please excuse my probable misuse of technological terms.<br><br><br><br>
So i'm currently using outlook express to pick up my email and file it (yes, i know, i sucks). its the first pc based email program i've ever used, (as aposed to web based) and basically i needed a pc based one for a few of my mail accounts, it came installed on my laptop, and i vaguely understand it, so i've been using it.<br><br><br><br>
6 months in, tragedy has struck. i have lovely 'get v1AgrA' style spam starting to float in via an account that i can't stop using- its an important one. Only 3 a day max, so far, but its been 3 days, no doubt in a week it'll be a billion a day.<br><br><br><br>
I've been doing common sense stuff like not giving my address out to random people, not putting it in any email address directories, not opening them, not replying, binning them, and disabling email images- any other tips would be gratefully recieved however.<br><br><br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">My main question though, is:</span><br><br><br><br>
Can anyone suggest a mailwashing/spamblocking (i think thats what they're called) program that will let me get 'real' mail- perhaps by adding friends/collegues to a 'safe' list, but which will stop spam emails from lovely kindhearted viagra salesmen called random things like 'Ceracticus P Doom' from getting through?<br><br><br><br>
Preferably one thats idiot proof, free (or cheap) and spyware/adware/crap free?<br><br><br><br>
If needs be, i could try using another (again very cheap or free) pc based mail program, if it looked similar to outlook (wasn't technical) was reliable, would work on windows xp (again, i know, it sucks) and solved this problem for me- any suggestions here would be useful too.<br><br><br><br>
thanks so much!
 

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Well, since no one else has answered, I'll take a crack at this, and perhaps display my ignorance.<br><br><br><br>
First, I am sorry to tell you that no, I know of no "magic bullet" software that will do what you are requesting--but I may be wrong since I haven't explored them all.<br><br><br><br>
Second, there are ways of coping with spam that might do *almost* what you want done, but not quite, and they are imperfect.<br><br><br><br>
Third, I have never used Outlook Express and would generally recommend you not use that or any other M$ product if you could avoid it.<br><br><br><br>
Fourth, one "simple" strategy for coping with your problem would be to do this. Step 1: Check your e-mail over the web, either using the ISP's web interface or using a general facility like <a href="http://www.mail2web.com/" target="_blank">http://www.mail2web.com/</a> . You can pretty much pick out the spam by looking at the sender's name and the subject header. You don't have to read the e-mails, just check the box next to the suspicious ones and then click the "delete" button. Step 2: Close your browser, start your e-mail client, and download your e-mails, since these should now be free of spam.<br><br><br><br>
You could get a program like Mailwasher, which allows you to "preview" your e-mails before downloading them, but this basically does what I've just described for you above.<br><br><br><br>
Fifth, my "setup" does pretty much what you want done, but this is not due to the software I use but is due to my ISP and the services it offers. It has an option for setting up spam blocking such that 1) all mail from addresses or domains on my "blacklist" gets blocked, 2) all mail from addresses or domains in my address book/"white list" goes through, and 3) all other e-mail goes into a "suspect" e-mail folder, where I can fish it out or not.<br><br><br><br>
What I am trying to say here is that the solution to your spam problem may depend in large part on what services your ISP has to offer you in this regard. Maybe "your ISP" is the wrong way to put it--it would be the ISP that handles the particular accounts you are getting spam on.<br><br><br><br>
What options does your ISP (or the ISP on these accounts) provide? Does it allow mail forwarding?<br><br><br><br>
Sixth, the e-mail program I use is Eudora. It has three "modes"--a paid mode, a "sponsored" mode (which displays ads) and a "lite" mode (which is completely free). Eudora has a number of features that help you cope with spam. For example, you can set up automatic "filters" so that any e-mail with the word "viagra" (or other variations) would simply be transferred to your "Trash" folder. I'd certainly recommend Eudora over Outlook Express. <a href="http://www.eudora.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eudora.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Sometime during the first half of 2007, Eudora will become a completely free product. I.e., all the features in the current "paid" mode, including SpamWatch, will be available for free.<br><br><br><br>
C'ya,<br><br><br><br>
Joe
 

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A freeware program which would help you filter spam into your trash box is called SpamPal.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.spampal.org/" target="_blank">http://www.spampal.org/</a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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How does SpamPal work?<br><br><br><br>
SpamPal sits between your email program and your mailbox, checking your email as you retrieve it. Any email messages that SpamPal considers to be spam will be "tagged" with a special header; you simply configure your email client to filter anything with this header into a separate folder and your spam won't be mixed up with the rest of your email anymore!<br><br><br><br>
But how does SpamPal know what is spam and what isn't? Well, it uses what are called DNSBL lists. Patterned after the famous MAPS RBL, these are lists of parts of the Internet that in one way or another facilitate spam. Any email you get from a machine on one of these lists has an increased probability of being spam. Some ISPs already block all email from machines on some of these DNSBL lists, but many do not. This is where SpamPal comes in.<br><br><br><br>
You can choose to use any or all of the freely-usable DNSBL lists; SpamPal will look at the machines each email message passed through on its way to your mailbox, and if any of those machines is on one of the DNSBL lists you have chosen then that message will be tagged as spam.<br><br><br><br>
Because not everyone who uses a machine on a DNSBL list will be a spammer, SpamPal has a powerful <b>whitelisting</b> feature that allows you to ignore DNSBL listings for certain senders or for parts of the Internet.</div>
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oooohhhh. that spampal thing looks good!<br><br><br><br>
i'm not so keen on checking my mail on a web page, then filtering out the crud, and letting the rest get picked up by OE- i think i'd get confused and screw it up, lol, my mail is already getting autoforwarded from my work email address in england, to the rogers email address i use here in canada, then from there being picked up by outlook express (work is on a secure server so i can't do it straight from work to OE!). i hate my ISP's mail retreival website, i feel its very un-userfriendly (i feel the whole company is unfriendly generally- but i don't pay the bill, so i can't complain, and lets not get into that!) so for now, to avoid further confusion, the spampal sounds like a good plan- its pretty much what i had in mind, i think. if i set it right, it should sieve stuff pretty well, hopefully. i'm pretty sure my ISP's security features are already set up to filter my mail, but i guess it doesn't work if i don't check it on their site- i'll look again though, maybe i can filter it more so spam doesn't even get to my address. hmmm.<br><br><br><br>
similarly the blocking reciept of mail in OE based on names and words seems a good plan, my bf does something like this i think, but then the spammers just throw a random letter d or whatever into the middle of a word, and their mail gets through. its such a pain in the ass. i've been really lucky spam wise so far, so i guess having had some of my email addresses for nearly 10 years, just getting spam in a few inboxes, and only in the last year, isnt too bad!<br><br><br><br>
i think i'll maybe give eudora a try when its free, too. i'm rapidly becoming less than enamoured with all things microsoft... and norton antivirus too, (which gets its little evil tendrils everywhere in your computer and refuses to budge no matter how many times you delete every component of it known to man... grrrrr) lmao.<br><br><br><br>
anyway... rant over. thank you very much for your help! i'll try and retain this new knowledge/information/wisdom, and get onto attempting mastery of sorting it out now.
 

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Here's an article on spam blocking techniques by Bob Rankin of the Internet Tourbus:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://askbobrankin.com/spam_blocker.html" target="_blank">http://askbobrankin.com/spam_blocker.html</a><br><br><br><br>
See also the user comments at the bottom of the page.<br><br><br><br>
One of the things Rankin mentions--and the reason I asked you about mail forwarding--is that one of the things Rankin recommends is the use of GMail, which comes with its own, built-in anti-spam devices. You could set up a GMail account, have your e-mail forwarded there, and then either check it there (on the web) or download it from there to OE or Eudora. I know it sounds a bit round-about, but it is free and is one possible solution.
 
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thanks again Joe.<br><br><br><br>
i've set up the spambully thing, but i'm not sure how well its working yet, same with some filters on outlook express.<br><br><br><br>
there is a lot for me to learn, and much to look into, it seems!
 
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