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but, we had a big pool party for the 4th of July last year. 3 or 4 days prior I was vaccuming out the pool. Well, if you don't have a pool let me explain a little first so that you understand. There's a device that looks like the shape of one of those sponge-mops. There a long hose attached to it that basically can go the diameter of the pool. The hose attaches to the filter and the filter runs to the pump that circulates the water back into the pool after it's been cleaned. Well, the pump is at 5.6 amps of hp on low and about 12 amps of hp on high. When the pool is cleaned it's on high (very powerful stuff here).<br><br><br><br>
Ok, so here's my deal. Like I said, I'm vaccuming the pool and at this point I'm caddy-corner from the filter at the opposite end of the pool. The hose became unattached to the device that sweeps the bottom of the pool and began moving spuratically towards me. I reached down to grab it and before I knew it, the thing had attached to the upper part of my thigh. Well, I freaked out because no one was outside with me while I was doing this so there was no one there to shut the pump off from the outside of the pool. I frantically tried to pull it off and when I did it tried to suck more of me in. Well, I ran (as well and as fast as you can in water with a hose hanging from your leg) over to the filter and pulled the hose out to stop the suction. Well, my leg was hurting so bad it took my breath away. I look down and basically watched the bruise form. The point of impact was a knot the size of a quater. The bruise itself was painfull for most people to look at and basically ended up being 8 inches long by about 4 inches wide. Very nasty stuff. Black as tar for the longest time.<br><br><br><br>
My doctor said that I should watch for various things and elevate it for the first 24 hours. I did.<br><br><br><br>
Here's what I'm getting at. It's been 6 months and the bruise hasn't gone away yet. It's a faint light brown color, just a couple shades lighter than my skin. It almost looks like a birthmark and you can definitely see it from a distance.. It doesn't hurt or anything.<br><br><br><br>
I've never heard of a bruise not going away. Shouldn't my body have absorbed this blood that was pulled to the surface back into my body? Am I going to be stuck with this the rest of my life? Is there something I can do to get it to go away? Help if you can please...It looks freaky. Thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I actually haven't been back since it happened. I was at the hospital for something else and peaked in at the office so she didn't do an exam or anything. I didn't know at the time it wasn't going to go away and I don't think that it's worth going back to the doctor for now. Or maybe I should?? Oh, I dont' know. It doesn't hurt or anything...and my copayment is $20. I'd hate to pay to have her tell me something I could find out for free somewhere else.
 

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Is it possible that the brownishness is damage to the skin itself and not something underneath? It could be like a scar on your skin. (I thought of this bc a tan from the sun is essentially a scar.)
 

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Lovely Ruthie, I must confess that I'm having a difficult time suppressing a chuckle at the visual of getting sucked into the pool vaccuum . . . . <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
I've got several scars from various things, mostly motorcycle related when I was younger, and I do have one that never broke the skin and still carries a discoloration. I'm no doctor and can offer no advice other than to say that mine is still there but it's given me no problems after all this time . . . .
 

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Yes...most of my friends and neighbors laughed about it for the rest of the summer. Another inch up and to the right we would have been talking about a whole other ball game if you know what I mean. And my panicky skip across the pool I'm sure was something to see <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Boy, I'm sure glad it wasn't a boob!....I guess what happened can be considered a pool hicky.<br><br><br><br>
Thalia - no, I think this is just right underneath the skin. It looks like an old bruise that hasn't gone away. It's been on my mind for a few months and even though I don't think it's something to worry about, cosmetically it looks like yuk <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
The positive to all of this is that the kids that live downstairs don't vaccuum the pool anymore. I never realized how dangerous this is until it happened to me and I felt the full force of the suction. I'm glad it was me and not one of them (or one of the guy's for that matter).<br><br><br><br>
You know, I think the fact that my thighs are kind of meaty made it worse because there was that much more 'give' to my skin which made it easier to get sucked in.<br><br><br><br>
Yeah. Go ahead and laugh...I understand <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I believe I get enough iron. I know it's not as good as getting it from a food product, but I take a multi-vitamen for women everyday so that I make sure to have those bases covered.
 

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Lol. well i dont think it would be funny if it happened to me. If you are worried about it maybe you should check with your docter to see why it hasnt went away yet. And you said 8 inches long well that is a big bruise and maybe it will just take time then eventually fade away. If it doesnt hurt then i dont think there is anything to worry about !
 

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Oh, MsRuthie! That SUCKS! (sorry. I had to.) Part of me says, try some supportive things to assist your body in the eliminatory "clean up" process. See if there are any interferences to your body cleaning up and repairing the area. Another part of me says, maybe to a little research to see if there may be another reason why it's not going away. But I'm more inclined to say trust your body and do a little sleuthing. It was obviously a major trauma. Albeit, a rather humorous one!<br><br><br><br>
Maybe try some arnica (internally and externally) for a while. Light massage with the arnica cream, maybe. But I hesitate when I say that because you don't want to stir things up too much and disrupt the process. Vitamin C and other supportive nutrients for good vascular health. Hey... wait a minute. Hmmm...<br><br><br><br>
I'm curious about your multi-vitamin. Does it contain iron? No one should take a an iron supplement unless they have a defiency. And it should never be in a multi. It can be dangerous and interferes with zinc absorption and supplemental iron can aggravate zinc deficiency. Also interferes with manganese and molybdenum. It destroys vitamin E and its own absorption is blocked by calcium and magnesium. That's why it doesn't even make sense to take it in multi form.<br><br><br><br>
You know what I'm thinking? There are some studies on the properties of zinc and its implications in endothelial cell metabolism. What if there's a connection between a decrease of zinc absorption in your system due to the iron supplement and the cells involved in your bruise not metabolizing correctly? What do you think?
 

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MsRuthieB: I asked a nurse I know for you. She said it could be because of damaged blood vessels. She wasn't sure but said that it should be checked out by a doctor.
 

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I copied/pasted this from their website. Even though it says to take 2 a day, I didn't see any reason why I couldn't get away with just taking one a day, so I only take one a day. Yeah, it contains iron. Seriously, does this seem like too much stuff to be putting together in my body at one time (cut all of the quantities in half)? I mean, I don't feel weird or anything from it, but looking at it now it seems like an awful lot. Sheesh, I should study up on this.<br><br><br><br>
Mega Vita Min for Women Specially formulated to provide a gradual release of vitamins over a prolonged period of time. Directions: For adults, take two (2) tablets daily, preferably with a meal. blood glucose levels. Not to be taken by children or pregnant or lactating women. Size 2 tablets Servings Per<br><br>
Vitamin A 10,000I.U. 200% (as Retinyl Palmitate and Beta Carotene), Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid and Rose Hips) 250mg 417%, Vitamin D (as Cholecalciferol) 400I.U. 100%, Vitamin E (as d-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate) 125I.U. 417%, Thiamin (Vitamin B-1) (as Thiamine Mononitrate) 80mg 5,333%, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 80mg 4,706%, Niacin (as Niacinamide) 80mg 400%, Vitamin B-6 (as Pyridoxine Hydrochloride) 80mg 4,000%, Folic Acid 400mcg 100%, Vitamin B-12 (as Cyanocobalamin) 80mcg 1,333% ,Biotin (as d-Biotin) 300mcg 100% ,Pantothenic Acid (as d-Calcium Pantothenate) 80mg 800%, Calcium 500mg 50%, (as Calcium Carbonate and Calcium Phosphate) Iron (as Ferrous Gluconate) 15mg 83%, Phosphorus (as Calcium Phosphate) 225mg 23%, Iodine (as Kelp) 150mcg 100%, Magnesium (as Magnesium Oxide) 200mg 50%, Zinc (as Zinc Gluconate) 15mg 100%, Selenium (as Sodium Selenate) 100mcg 143%, Copper (as Copper Gluconate) 2mg 100%, Manganese (as Manganese Gluconate) 2mg 100%, Chromium (as Chromium Picolinate) 100mcg 83%, Molybdenum (as Sodium Molybdate) 25mcg 33%, Chloride (as Potassium Chloride) 10mg Less than 1%, Potassium (as Potassium Chloride) 10mg Less than 1%, Boron (as Sodium Borate) 2mg *, Silica (as Silicon Dioxide) 2mg *, Cranberry 25mg *, Deodorized Garlic (Allium sativum) (bulb) 25mg *, Dong Quai (Angelica sinensis) (root) 25mg *, Black Cohosh (Cimicifuga racemosa) (root) 25mg *, Red Clover (Trifolium pratense) (blossom) 25mg *, Wild Yam (Dioscorea villosa) (root) 25mg *, Vitex Extract (Vitex agnus castus) (fruit) 25mg *, Chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla) (flower) 25mg *, Soy Isoflavones 25mg *, Ipriflavone 25mg *, Barley Grass 5mg *, Choline (as Choline Bitartrate) 10mg *, Inositol 10mg *, PABA (Para-Aminobenzoic Acid) 10mg *, Rutin 25mg *, Citrus Bioflavonoid Complex 25mg *, Hesperidin Complex 5mg *, Betaine Hydrochloride 25mg *, Coenzyme Q10 500mcg *, Pycnogenol® (Pinus maritima) (bark) 500mcg *
 

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It's daunting, I know. I once did a lot of my own research on the best multi and came up with My Favorite Multiple, no iron tablets. The tablets are vegetarian but not the capules. Check out the information in the first part of the book Prescription For Nutritional Healing for some good, general guidelines for nutrients and amounts.<br><br><br><br>
I question the herbs in your multi. What do you think about the iron/zinc connection? Plausible?
 

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Poesia - I think you have a good point with the iron/zinc connection. I believe I may have to look into another muti-vitamen that is iron free. Maybe I'll try the one you take.<br><br><br><br>
Apple - Thanks Bud! I think I'll check with the doc next time I go (which will be next month sometime). I definitely did some serious damage there because there was a terrible knot there for a few months. Really scared me.<br><br><br><br>
Anyhow, thanks for the help. I'll have to let you know what she says when I see her next month.
 

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There is nothing funny about this. Several children, in fact, have had their intestines everted, thru their anuses, when the suction drain at the bottom of the pool latched onto their anuses, after they sat on the suction drains (intentionslly, which feels pleasant, but only if you don't make a good air-tight connection). This is very serious, possibly lethal damage, very likely with life-long disbility due to loss of intestines and loss of normally functioning anus. I wouldn't be surprised if uteruses could become everted too.<br><br><br><br>
Vaccuum suction at high power can be very very dangerous. It is nothing to joke about.
 

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If the bruise was only skin-deep, it would tend to go away after a few weeks. If it extended into the muscle fascia or worse, the muscle tissue below the skin, you could have permanent muscle loss, and a permanent visible depression in the area where the injury occurred.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by soilman</i><br><br><b>Vaccuum suction at high power can be very very dangerous. It is nothing to joke about.</b></div>
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It is very serious. I didn't realize how so until this happened to me. It all happened so fast..seconds I would say. But, thinking back, it looked like slow motion. The hose came of and instantly started 'looking' for something to latch on to. When it hit me, it was an air-tight seal. I know I have some permanent damage deep down. Do you think that it's something that may give me trouble in later years (like blood clots and such)? If it may, is there something I can be doing now to head it off so that it doesn't happen?
 

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"Do you think that it's something that may give me trouble in later years (like blood clots and such)?"<br><br><br><br>
I don't <b>think</b> so. I think if you were going to get a blood clot it, I think it would have happened within a few weeks of the injury. Unless the damage is real deep and affects the femoral artery or vein, it will probably just be cosmetic damage. I think your doctor would have said something about "femoral artery" or "lack of blood supply" if there was any need to be concerned about it. If there are few millimeters of muscle "scooped" out over an area of 4 inches by 8 inches, you are probably talking about a big muscle or (muscles), which would have damage to only a small percentage of its total size. So you shouldn't have any noticable loss of muscle function. "Of course I'd have to examine you to be more sure." Of course you should have a doctor do this, not me. But I'd think that if you haven't already had problems walking or running, due to muscle damage, or standing up from a squatting position, or whatever, you probably won't have any problems in the future. But even people with pretty nasty muscle injuries, and initial loss of muscle function, have recovered full muscle function, or better, once their affected muscles build up in other areas (consequent to doing exercises to build them up) to compensate for the loss of tissue in the injured areas. If there was no noticable loss of function to begin with, than I doubt there will ever be.
 

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Thanks..BTW..I seriously think you should be AKA Knowledgeman<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 
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