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Let me first say that I introduced myself on the Intro board, just thinking about becoming vegetarian. I was kind of on the fence. Not having watched any of the videos or read any books or anything. So I finally decided to watch the Meet Your Meat video. I am a total visual person. I watched that movie Supersize Me and I can no longer eat McDonalds which before this movie I LOVED! So I was putting off watching the Meet Your Meat or any other videos of this sort. I knew once I watched it that would seal the deal on me becoming a vegetarian, or probably even vegan. I WAS SO RIGHT! I was in tears almost the entire video. I am a huge animal lover!!! This broke my heart and tore me to pieces. I threw up when it was over. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:"> I know, too much information.<br><br>
Is it like that in all of these factories? It is horrible! How can people be so damn cruel???<br><br>
We just went grocery shopping where I bought all of my usual junk. I don't even want any of it anymore. I will convert immediately. I cannot even wrap my brain around the insane cruelty I just watched!<br><br>
Just wanted to share my converting with everyone!<br><br>
ANy and all advice for a newbie is welcome. Book recommendations, food ideas. I will be scouring the message boards for the next few days to get me started!<br><br><br><br>
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welcome.<br><br>
the pain of suffering still hurts most of us. even after 8 years veg I still tear up when I watch EARTHLINGS. (which is like meet your meat, but shows other aspects of the animal industry, and is more graphic. )<br><br><br><br>
just know that by going veg* you no longer contribute to the deaths of around 93 animals per year. your choice will make an impact. on the lives of animals and others.<br><br><br><br>
welcome to the path of ethical living. the path of healthy living. the path of higher living.<br><br>
take a look around, and peacefull blessings be with you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Wow, I just looked at your intro post - you moved right ahead. Congratulations on beginning to make the switch to a compassionate diet. A lot of us who care about animals are sorry that we didn't make the connection earlier about caring for animals and our dietary choices.<br><br><br><br>
For more information about animal farming, and switching to veg*nism, you can also see...<br><br><a href="http://www.whyvegan.com" target="_blank">http://www.whyvegan.com</a><br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarming.org" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.org</a><br><br><a href="http://www.cok.net" target="_blank">http://www.cok.net</a> (in the literature section there's an article about "free range" too)<br><br><br><br>
Peta has a clearinghouse of videos if you wanted to see more (sounds like you don't though...)<br><br><a href="http://www.petatv.com/" target="_blank">http://www.petatv.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
I think it's quite easy to switch to veganism, when you have such a compelling reason for doing so (I know people have different experiences, but that's mine). There are lots of great cookbooks, and people can help you to make substitutions and such. I encourage you to keep reminding yourself of what the food industry means to the animals who are used in it, if you lose your motivation. People tend to forget how much suffering is involved in commercially producing animal products, because it really is horrible to think about. But when you remain cognizant of it, animal products lose their appeal as food.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, you should ask for any help you need <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Its really unsettling at first when you realise the truth of what is being done to animals in factory farms. I think what you are doing is wonderful, and although the pain and heart break you feel for the animals never goes away, living a cruetly free life will make you feel like you are making a difference (which you are!).<br><br><br><br>
My advice would be to take things slowly. This is a big change you are making, and you don't have to do it all at once. Its fine to become vegeterian first, and then when you are comfortable with that, think about moving towards veganism. There is a lot to learn and get used too, and small steps can be beter in the long run.
 

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Wow groovycakes, you must be a strong and noble person to be able to open your eyes and plan for positive change so quickly. That's great!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":wayne:"><br><br><br><br>
But as for your questions: Yes, based on my years studying the industry, IMO the video is very accurate and honest. It depicts procedures described in animal farming textbooks and industry-based science journals, for example. And to my knowledge, everything actually shown in the video (as opposed to said) is completely legal under U.S. federal law.<br><br><br><br>
Books: I recommend Mad Cowboy by Howard Lyman. The first couple chapters are a bit dated, but the rest is excellent. This book is a gold mine of information about the relationship between animal farming and the environment and people's health. This book might offer you a break from the distressing video you just saw because it doesn't talk much about animal harm and focuses more on other topics, which I think are also very important for veg*ns to understand. I forgot to add that the author has a great sense of humor and his writing is very approachable.<br><br>
Other books that have helped me are John Robbins' Diet for a New America (pretty dated but a quick read) and Joan Stepaniak's The Vegan Sourcebook.<br><br><br><br>
Be forewarned that not all the recipes in these books are good!<br><br><br><br>
Congrats on your compassionate decision, and welcome.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:">
 

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That movie converted my boyfriend as well, heheheh <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Also, I use that video as the signature to many of my posts on other chat forums. 2 people whom I do not know have converted to vegetarianism after watching it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Its a good way to spread the word <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Also, I use that video as the signature to many of my posts on other chat forums. 2 people whom I do not know have converted to vegetarianism after watching it Its a good way to spread the word</div>
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That is a good idea. I think I'll add it to my signatures in other forums. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Thank you all for the responses and support.<br><br>
That video is truly disturbing. This morning I was cutting up some Tri-tip that my husband made over the weekend. He wanted it for lunch today. Out of habit, I popped a piece in my mouth. As soon as it hit my tongue the images from that video flashed through my head and out it went into the sink. I had to rinse my mouth of with a ton of water. It disgusted me! I see that as a good thing!!!!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br><br><br>
THanks everyone!<br><br>
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That video, even after 7 years of vegetarianism, still hurts me so badly. I can't watch it (I own it and will have anyone watch it that I possibly can), but I cannot be in the room. I really want my boyfriend to watch it, but he won't and I don't know if I could sit down with him and watch it again. It literally breaks my heart. As for my boyfriend, I will know when the time is right to show him the video. I already have him eating tons of veggie dinners and he comments on how cool it is that I am a veggie. Ah well, I plan on a long life with him and I will slowly convert him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
Congrats to you and your instant change over! Watching that video make me a vegetarian once it was over so I know just how you feel.
 

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Wow! You guys are brave I couldn't watch all of meet your meat. It made me cry and sick to think what I was contributing to. I gave of meat instantly after only watching 2 min of it.
 

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Actually, what I use as my signature on other forums is this:<br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="color:#FF0001;">Think that eating dogs in China is uncivilized???</span></span> <span style="color:#FF0000;">America</span> = Throwing live male chicks into the trash or into grinders to make dogfood is LEGAL in factory farms because males can't lay eggs when they grow up. <span style="color:#FF0000;">America</span> = Newborn calves are put in crates so tiny that they cannot turn around or walk for 7 months so that their muscles attrify and so that we can have a VERY tender steak or hamburger. They never leave this crate. They are also fed food to induce anemia to make their flesh MORE tender and juicey. They are too weak to walk to slaughter. They are dragged by ropes. <span style="color:#FF0000;">America</span> = The Washington Post (April 10, 2001) stated that 30% of cows are skinned alive while fully conscious, mooing and looking around. "They blink. They make noises," he said softly. <span style="font-size:small;"><b>"The head moves, the eyes are wide and looking around."</b></span> Still Moreno would cut. On bad days, he says, dozens of animals reached his station clearly alive and conscious. Some would survive as far as the tail cutter, the belly ripper, the hide puller. "They die," said Moreno, "piece by piece." Too "uncivilized" to believe? Not for big corporations that want to make lots of money and who handle eleven billion animals per year. Watch the free 10-minute documentary here: (Then I give the Meet Your Meat link here)<br><br><br><br>
I only use the stuff that I can back up with evidence... like the humane society talks about the male chicks...and the Washington Post talks about them being skinned alive. That way people dont think I'm just some weirdo trying to gross people out for no reason :p<br><br><br><br>
I have many people message me and say, "OMG! I didnt know that was legal!!" and 4 have become vegetarian over my signatures. It makes me feel like I can help <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
You can copy my signature if you like <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I use it on all message boards and emails...
 

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i've been veg for 12 years and vegan for 10, and that video still hits me hard .<br><br><br><br>
the scene of the bull being branded, that really makes my feelings alive .<br><br><br><br>
Yes, it's all standard CAFO "confined animal feeding operation" practices. to process 10 billion animals a year.. means processing 1.1 million animals Each Hour! That requires an assembly-line system that operates as a machine "factory farm".<br><br><br><br>
You are so open that you can watch the video and take it to heart right away! And you are at the right place.. VeggieBoards is by far the most active and helpful veggie forums I've found anywhere online <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> For almost anything you want to know or share, there'll be a dozen of us replying in a few days <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> (Thank you Michael and moderators, and owner!)<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Let me suggest a good leap into solid referenced information and an overview of vegetarianism on our health, and our environment...<br><br><br><br>
..see both of the links in my signature. I've gotten many compliments on <i><a href="http://www.helpusall.com/foodsummary" target="_blank">www.helpusall.com/foodsummary</a></i>, and I wish I had the info when I was starting veg!<br><br><br><br>
the <i><a href="http://www.helpusall.com/ap" target="_blank">www.helpusall.com/ap</a></i> link is similar to meet your meat, but it's less graphic and it's oriented for those who are motivated more by a more heartfelt presentation, focusing on the preciousness of the animals.<br><br><br><br>
Like some people see some graphic images and they turn off to vegetarianism and are afraid to explore it... for them, a more gentle presentation can be a better gateway... and also more enccouraging maybe too.<br><br><br><br>
here the best ideas i can share on diet change...<br><br><br><br>
(1) always replace old foods with new ones... never leave a hole. And have a wide variety of vegetarian foods in the house.<br><br>
(2) match the new foods by similar fat and protein content of the old foods.<br><br>
...if you were used to hamburger, then get Yves Veggie Ground Round. It makes it a lot easier on your body and mind, that have been used to a certain 'heaviness' of the food, and your stomach being used to producing a certain amount of enzymes and bile regularly.<br><br>
(3) as you replace old foods with similar new foods, also explore some totally new foods. Exotic Fruits!, Tofu dishes, vegetarian frozen food items, or explore vegetarian recipes at home. Experiment and Explore <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
(4) and keep in mind why you're doing it. Keep learning and sharing with others.<br><br><br><br>
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Watching meet your meat was a deciding factor for me also. Another good one is "Chew on this" which is on the PETA website.<br><br><br><br>
To tell my partner I had decided to become a vegetarian I said "Come here there is something I want you to watch" and sat him down to watch Meet you Meat. Afterward I said "I have decided to become a vegetarian" and he said "if it makes you feel better" (he would normally have argued the many "reasons" not to). So the movie has also helped me in that reguard, all I need to succeed is his support, everyone else can go to heck.
 

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Hi,<br><br>
and I read a GREAT book by Jane Goodall called Harvest of Hope.<br><br>
I did not want to eat any meat after that, and then I went to the Peta veggie web site and saw several of those videos. I get sick thinking about eating it now.<br><br>
Unfortunately, my husband is a low carb eater, and has to have meat every night.<br><br>
I would like for him to see this Meet your Meat video, but I wonder if he would get angry at me for showing him. Also, I don't have a copy, and I am not sure where to get one.<br><br>
Also, I saw a documentary on TV last night about the electric chair, and it showed them testing it on an elephant before it was approved!<br><br>
The poor creature was strapped up in all these wires, then they turned it on and the animal fell to the ground. So then they decided the device was strong enough to kill humans.<br><br>
It makes me so angry!<br><br>
Anyway, I am so glad I found this sight. I have been a vegatarian, (though I do eat fish occasionally) since August, and I feel so much lighter.<br><br>
Though I do smell some of the foods I used to love, and it gets my mouth watering. But if I just think of the awful images, the urge is gone.
 

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Well done Heather, Ive been a vegetarian for 25 years and saw "meet your meat" actually I could only watch half and have since then (last month) been vegan. I have never felt better about myself. I just dont know how to deal with family and friends who dont feel the same.
 

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I know this sucks but i still haven't gone vegatarian yet even after meet your meat. I don't know but i just think the world is a cruel place but it is all necessary. War is necessary. Sometimes killing is necessary. I just bought "Earthlings" on dvd (i'm waiting for it to come in) maybe it will change my mind.
 

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I know this sucks but i still haven't gone vegatarian yet even after meet your meat. I don't know but i just think the world is a cruel place but it is all necessary. War is necessary. Sometimes killing is necessary. I just bought "Earthlings" on dvd (i'm waiting for it to come in) maybe it will change my mind.</div>
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Well, it is not "necessary" for you to have animals bred, confined, and killed in terrible ways for you to eat them.<br><br><br><br>
The world is an "unnecessarily" cruel place in part because people continue to make it so. When people have some knowledge about how these creatures are made to suffer, and continue to participate when they have other choices, it does make me think that people are indeed very cruel and unable to empathize with the suffering of others. Would it feel so necessary and fine if you were in the position of the one being hurt? Slavery may seem necessary and o.k. to those running the plantations, but for the slaves it is unbearable.
 

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I know this sucks but i still haven't gone vegatarian yet even after meet your meat. I don't know but i just think the world is a cruel place but it is all necessary. War is necessary. Sometimes killing is necessary. I just bought "Earthlings" on dvd (i'm waiting for it to come in) maybe it will change my mind.</div>
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There's nothing necessary in it. In fact, it's a luxury: not everyone can affor to eat the meat you eat.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>justaliv3</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I know this sucks but i still haven't gone vegatarian yet even after meet your meat. I don't know but i just think the world is a cruel place but it is all necessary. War is necessary. Sometimes killing is necessary. I just bought "Earthlings" on dvd (i'm waiting for it to come in) maybe it will change my mind.</div>
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nec·es·sar·y (nĕs'ĭ-sĕr'ē)<br><br>
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Absolutely essential.<br><br><br><br>
This is an example of how you have been brainwashed by the meat industry and your government. None of the examples you gave are at all "NESSESARY".<br><br><br><br>
The animals we farms entire lives are spent feeling nothing but pain and terror. If you speak to a nutritionist or an ecologist they will tell you in no uncertian terms that it is not only unnessesary for us to eat meat, but it is detrimental to our health and the environment.
 
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