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I've never heard of gastric bypass being able to "cure" Type II Diabetes before. Not that I think there isn't some benefit to the surgery for him, but this claim seems off.
 

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I don't understand, if he is already eating almost no food, how is the gastric band going to help anyway?
 

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I don't understand, if he is already eating almost no food, how is the gastric band going to help anyway?
This is what I was thinking. Gastric bands are often portrayed by the media as some miracle cure for obesity - if hes apparently eating so little, what difference would it make?

I also think that people do not realise that the NHS have to get the money from somewhere. The surgeon is not going to do the procedure for free, and the hospital does not run on air. There have to be rules and guidelines somewhere.
 

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I've never heard of gastric bypass being able to "cure" Type II Diabetes before. Not that I think there isn't some benefit to the surgery for him, but this claim seems off.
i think the evidence is fairly conclusive that it indeed can cure type 2 diabetes, by a mechanism that isn't entirely understood. per the cleveland clinic :

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A recent study on over 20,000 patients showed that 84 percent who underwent Roux-enY gastric bypass (RYGB) experienced complete reversal of their type 2 diabetes. Rapid improvement in blood sugars and reduction or elimination of diabetic medications is often seen within the immediate period following bariatric surgery, even before significant weight loss.

While the number of diabetic patients needing medical therapy with oral hypoglycemics or insulin reaches almost 90 percent over time, the need for medical management falls to less than 8 percent among those who have gastric bypass. These results are typically persistent for rest of the life, as long as normal body weight is sustained. Resolution of diabetes is measured by normalized fasting blood sugar and glycosylated hemoglobin (HgA1C) concentrations. Some studies show that every 1 percent drop in HbA1C causes a relative reduction of long-term complications of diabetes by 25 to 45 percent.
 

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I think this is exactly the sort of thing that concerns people in the US about single-payer health care. Of course, today in the US many private insurance companies refuse to pay for procedures, but somehow it seems more oppressive when it's the government telling you that your life is not worth saving.
 

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A man who works with my husband had a gastric band on the NHS and it did reverse his type 2 diabetes but he said he is starving all the time now. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and set up an exercise and healthy eating plan for patients.
 

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He wants a gastric bypass. My mom had the surgery eleven years ago and she almost died. She spent months in the hospital and it didn't cure her diabetes and she still wound up with kidney failure. When she finally did die two years ago she weighed less than 100 pounds and they listed malnutrition as a contributing cause of death. I don't believe people realize that this surgery is serious and it isn't a cure all.
 

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A man who works with my husband had a gastric band on the NHS and it did reverse his type 2 diabetes but he said he is starving all the time now. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and set up an exercise and healthy eating plan for patients.
There are such plans available. There's also support groups etc for people. I don't have diabetes but I do need to lose weight and there is a weekly support group at my local doctors surgery as well as private appointments available with a nurse who specialised in it (like the help to quit nurses for smoking but for losing weight). Only problem is that I've been on the waiting list and it's going to add up to 2 months from getting onto the list to actually being seen because there is a massive demand for it but if you have diabetes or other weight-related illnesses then you go to the top of the list.

The problem with such groups etc is that you actually have to want to do it. I think people are seeing surgery as a magic spell to lose weight...
 

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I guess he will have to go down the traditional route of weight loss.

As has been mentioned, if he is only eating such a small amount of calories anyway, surely the surgery will not be of much use. Also, I'm sure you would be losing weight on just 400-500 calories per day...
 
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