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Hurricane Irene missed us here in Florida, and it's now headed for North Carolina and then onward north from there. From talking to my family in New York, it seems that people up there are seriously underestimating this beast. So I figured I should post here to warn all of you to take this thing VERY seriously, and give some preparation advice from a Floridian who has been through a few of these.<br><br>
The most important thing you need to know is that the leading cause of death in a hurricane is stupidity. Safety tips:<br><ol class="decimal"><li>If you're told to evacuate, DO IT!!! 1300 people died in Hurricane Katrina. Why? Because they were there! If they'd driven to Houston before it hit, they'd still be alive today. Most of the evacuations will be people who live within a mile or two of the shoreline. Given that the storm surge could result in a high tide 10-15 feet higher than normal, pretty much every building within a mile of the shore is going to get flooded. And the actual leading cause of death in a hurricane, according to the experts, is drowning. See where I'm going with this?</li>
<li>Every time one of these storms hits Florida, we always hear about one or two idiots who died because they thought the big waves before the storm would be great for surfing. Don't be that idiot.</li>
<li>Don't go outside <i>during</i> the storm. I've heard of people dying because a tree fell on their car, or they went out for a smoke, and a tree fell on them while they were out. Once again, if they hadn't put themselves there, they wouldn't have been in danger. Just stay indoors.</li>
<li>Don't go near a downed power line after the storm. The pole may have fallen down, but the wire may still be live, and you can get die from electrocution just from stepping in a puddle that happens to be connected to another puddle that has a live wire in it. So just don't go anywhere near those downed power lines and let the experts deal with them.</li>
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Preparation tips:<br><ol class="decimal"><li>Stock up on food. The rule of thumb is to have enough non-perishable items to survive for a week with no electricity, running water, or access to buy more. Here's a thread where we Floridians have discussed veg*n food for hurricane prep in the past: <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?86288-Florida-Hurricane-season" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...rricane-season</a>! Remember that you'll need a non-electric can opener to open your canned goods, and Bush's has one type of baked beans that are clearly labeled as vegetarian, so buy those. Bread and fresh fruit are also good hurricane foods.</li>
<li>Stock up on water. Again, you need a week's worth. The rule of thumb is one gallon of water per person per day, so 7 gallons total for each person in your household. Freezing several large bottles of water in advance can help keep your food cold in your freezer for a couple of days with no electricity, and eventually serve as drinking water when it melts. Empty soda bottles are good for that sort of thing. Also, fill up your bath tub before the storm hits. That way, if you can't flush your toilet due to lack of running water, you can use a bucket and the water from the bath tub for that.</li>
<li>Fill the gas tank of your car in advance. Most people don't think of this if they've never been through it, but if electricity is out, that means the gas stations won't be able to pump gas. So fill up before the storm.</li>
<li>Make sure you have plenty of flashlights, batteries, candles, and at least one battery operated (or hand crank) radio. Again, prepare as if you won't have electricity for a week. After getting hit by 3 hurricanes in 2004 and 2005, it took between 5 and 8 days for me to get electricity back each time. Some local stores were open within 2 or 3 days, but I'm sure these were among the first items they ran out of, so prepare as if you won't be able to buy more for at least a week.</li>
<li>If you need any sort of medication, make sure you have plenty of it in advance. Once again, the stores <i>will</i> be closed for a few days after the storm.</li>
<li>Take some cash out of the bank in advance. Credit cards and ATMs won't be usable without electricity.</li>
<li>You may have heard that you're supposed to tape windows. That's an old myth that's no longer recommended. Save your time and effort. If you're not going to put up boards or shutters over your windows, then just stay away from them during the storm.</li>
<li>Bring everything inside. Lawn furniture, bicycles, etc are all potential projectiles during a hurricane. It's probably too late now for you to trim the trees of thinner and weaker branches, so unfortunately, those will projectiles, as well.</li>
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I'm sure I'm forgetting some things, but hopefully I've scared you into taking this thing seriously and preparing. Here's the National Hurricane Center's preparedness page: <a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/prepare.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/prepare.shtml</a><br><br>
For that matter, here's the two links I use to track the progress of storms, which every Floridian should have bookmarked:<br><a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/" target="_blank">National Hurricane Center / Tropical Prediction Center</a><br><a href="http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/" target="_blank">Weather Underground: Tropical Weather</a><br><br>
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Stay safe. You all are in my prayers. Thanks for the info, Fromper.
 

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Good call on the thread Stay safe.
 

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good advice. it always seems like storms are the worst when people don't think they'll be that bad.<br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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.[*]Make sure you have plenty of flashlights, batteries, candles, and at least one battery operated (or hand crank) radio. Again, prepare as if you won't have electricity for a week. After getting hit by 3 hurricanes in 2004 and 2005, it took between 5 and 8 days for me to get electricity back each time. Some local stores were open within 2 or 3 days, but I'm sure these were among the first items they ran out of, so prepare as if you won't be able to buy more for at least a week.</div>
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a week without electricity is the average i think. i know they restore power to essential places first, hospitals, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. and will fix the wires in order of how many people will get power back.
 

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a week without electricity is the average i think. i know they restore power to essential places first, hospitals, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. and will fix the wires in order of how many people will get power back.</div>
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Yeah, we got lucky when I weathered the storms in 2004-5 at my dad's house, because he was right down the street from a fire station. So he got his power back before anyone else we knew, because he was on the same electric grid. It still took 1-3 days each time after the storm had passed. As I said, it took 5-8 days each time for me to get power back at my place.<br><br>
I remember there being serious gas shortages because the gas stations couldn't open. And when they did, there were lines down the block at those stations, because word spread quickly about which ones were open, so some of them ran out of gas the first day they were open after the storm.<br><br>
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I am addicted to the weather channel right now.....
 

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Thank you Fromper for this.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979438"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I am addicted to the weather channel right now.....</div>
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Me too. This is crazy. I hope in the end it's far from as bad as what is being predicted.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:">
 

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The people up north seriously underestimate these things because time and time again there has been an insane amount of hype when one is coming...and then nothing materializes.<br><br>
I hope nothing materializes this time too.
 

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I am addicted to the weather channel right now.....</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>fadeaway1289</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979506"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Me too. This is crazy. I hope in the end it's far from as bad as what is being predicted.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"></div>
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Normal reaction. I've been following this one closely, too, even though it's already past me.<br><br>
Bear in mind that much of what they're reporting is worst case scenarios, which are realistic, but might not come to pass. It'll definitely be bad, but it's a question of how bad.<br><br>
Actually, Jeff Masters' latest blog post on Weather Underground (<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1902" target="_blank">http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=1902</a>) is encouraging. Apparently, the eyewall collapsed, and there's wind shear in the southwest quadrant of the storm, both of which are good news. This means it's down to category 2 and probably won't have time to strengthen back up to cat 3 before hitting North Carolina. It may even drop to cat 1 before it hits NC, but that's best case scenario. Unfortunately, the sheer size of the storm has gotten so much ocean water moving already that even if it weakens, the storm surge is likely to be the same as if it was still at its max strength. So the wind damage might not be that bad for a storm of its size, but the flooding along the coast could be truly terrible.<br><br>
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The people up north seriously underestimate these things because time and time again there has been an insane amount of hype when one is coming...and then nothing materializes.<br><br>
I hope nothing materializes this time too.</div>
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Same here. :-\\<br><br>
It looks like the storm is going to be very downgraded by the time it reaches Massachusetts, but who knows. I put my cactus under the porch.<br><br>
Thanks, Fromper.
 

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Fromper, great thread, fantastic tips. I live in florida, too, and I'm an RN, so I have worked during and after these storms, and it is not a fun time for anyone.<br>
Here is my lecture.<br><br>
STAY INDOORS! One guy went out during the eye of Charley to try to repair his damaged roof! He was blown off the ladder, broken bones only luckily.<br><br>
Also EVACUATE if told to. Emergency services cannot help you, you were supposed to leave! Gtfo!!<br><br>
Also, post-storm, careful of venomous snakes, spiders, and stuff like rats that have flooded homes. Don't walk around in the water, it is pretty grossly contaminated. Also many mosquitoes after all the rain!<br><br>
The nurses in labor and delivery request that you include condoms in your emergency hurricane kit. You wouldn't believe the baby boom 9 months after a storm!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Fromper, great thread, fantastic tips. I live in florida, too, and I'm an RN, so I have worked during and after these storms, and it is not a fun time for anyone.<br>
Here is my lecture.<br><br>
STAY INDOORS! One guy went out during the eye of Charley to try to repair his damaged roof! He was blown off the ladder, broken bones only luckily.<br><br>
Also EVACUATE if told to. Emergency services cannot help you, you were supposed to leave! Gtfo!!<br><br>
Also, post-storm, careful of venomous snakes, spiders, and stuff like rats that have flooded homes. Don't walk around in the water, it is pretty grossly contaminated. Also many mosquitoes after all the rain!<br><br>
The nurses in labor and delivery request that you include condoms in your emergency hurricane kit. You wouldn't believe the baby boom 9 months after a storm!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"></div>
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LOL. Hadn't thought about the baby boom. But what else is there to do for entertainment when the electricity's out? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/naughty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":naughty:"><br><br>
Good points - there's definitely more mosquitoes after a storm. They lay eggs in the water. I haven't had much of an issue with other wildlife.<br><br>
And yeah, I've seen a guy try to fix a roof during a storm, too. Here on the east coast, we got hit by Frances and Jeanne only three weeks apart in 2004, so my dad's neighbor across the street still had a tarp on his roof from the first one when the second one came through. Apparently, the tarp came loose, so he went out with a ladder when things were starting to calm down a little, but it was still rainy and windy, to nail the edge of the tarp back down. Luckily, he actually managed to avoid getting hurt. We just watched him out the front window of my dad's house and shook our heads at the level of stupidity.<br><br>
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Also, post-storm, careful of venomous snakes, spiders, and stuff like rats that have flooded homes. Don't walk around in the water, it is pretty grossly contaminated. Also many mosquitoes after all the rain!</div>
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OMG I would've never have thought about that! Freaky.<br><br>
There have been reports that some stores are already out of bottled water and other essentials. The lines of people outside of stores that they keep showing on the news are insane! I'm glad people are taking precautions though and getting prepared.
 

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i hope they have animal friendly shelters up there. i would never evacuate if i couldn't take my whole family and i know i'm not the only one who feels that way
 

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i hope they have animal friendly shelters up there. i would never evacuate if i couldn't take my whole family and i know i'm not the only one who feels that way</div>
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I agree completely! I read that lots of people didn't leave New Orleans<br>
for that very reason!
 

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I agree completely! I read that lots of people didn't leave New Orleans<br>
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yeah. they have shelters here in south florida now that will take pets if you preregister them. i think you only need to do that once a season. i guess the government down here finally caught on <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Fromper</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979157"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Hurricane Irene missed us here in Florida, and it's now headed for North Carolina and then onward north from there. From talking to my family in New York, it seems that people up there are seriously underestimating this beast. So I figured I should post here to warn all of you to take this thing VERY seriously, and give some preparation advice from a Floridian who has been through a few of these.<br><br><br>
Preparation tips:<br><br><ol class="decimal"><li>Stock up on food. The rule of thumb is to have enough non-perishable items to survive for a week with no electricity, running water, or access to buy more. Here's a thread where we Floridians have discussed veg*n food for hurricane prep in the past: <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?86288-Florida-Hurricane-season" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...rricane-season</a>! Remember that you'll need a non-electric can opener to open your canned goods, and Bush's has one type of baked beans that are clearly labeled as vegetarian, so buy those. Bread and fresh fruit are also good hurricane foods.</li>
<li>Stock up on water. Again, you need a week's worth. The rule of thumb is one gallon of water per person per day, so 7 gallons total for each person in your household. Freezing several large bottles of water in advance can help keep your food cold in your freezer for a couple of days with no electricity, and eventually serve as drinking water when it melts. Empty soda bottles are good for that sort of thing. Also, fill up your bath tub before the storm hits. That way, if you can't flush your toilet due to lack of running water, you can use a bucket and the water from the bath tub for that.</li>
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It may be too late to add this, but don't forget to stock up on extra food and water for your pets as well.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979438"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I am addicted to the weather channel right now.....</div>
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Thank you Fromper for this.<br><br><br><br>
Me too. This is crazy. I hope in the end it's far from as bad as what is being predicted.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"></div>
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Same here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Dedalus</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979516"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The people up north seriously underestimate these things because time and time again there has been an insane amount of hype when one is coming...and then nothing materializes.<br><br>
I hope nothing materializes this time too.</div>
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Same here. :-\\<br><br>
It looks like the storm is going to be very downgraded by the time it reaches Massachusetts, but who knows. I put my cactus under the porch.<br><br>
Thanks, Fromper.</div>
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When I left Boston yesterday, they said it was expected to be downgraded to a tropical storm. Of course, things can always change. And a tropical storm can do some real damage. Be safe!<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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i hope they have animal friendly shelters up there. i would never evacuate if i couldn't take my whole family and i know i'm not the only one who feels that way</div>
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I've noticed with a lot of the reporting over the last few days, they are paying more attention to the fact that people are not going to want to evacuate and leave their pets behind, so some places are being very accomodating for a change.
 

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NSFW or anyone who can not see a butt.<br><a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/08/27/hurricane-irene-dude-moons-weather-channel-reporter-during-live-shot.html" target="_blank">http://boingboing.net/2011/08/27/hur...live-shot.html</a><br><br>
Apparently people are not taking it that seriously in some places. A guy mooned the new reporter. Funny yes, but dangerous in the hurricane.
 
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