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<a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/10/no-one-dead-horse-shouldnt-be-the-end-of-carriage-rides.php" target="_blank">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011...iage-rides.php</a><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Perhaps it is true that carriage horses weren't meant to live and work in the urban setting we've created, though it's a tough argument considering carriage horses were a staple of city life for centuries, and were really only relatively recently replaced by autos -- autos which environmentalists are trying to replace with better alternatives such as trains, electric vehicles, and bikes, which would also be healthier for the horses to be around. Today's urban setting is different, sure, but NYC carriage horses work in and around a park, not the mean streets of the city.<br>
And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there is something sinister and nefarious about the carriage horse trade in NYC and the industry happens to be doing a great job of keeping a lid on it. But it is tough to find evidence on the surface that this kind of life for a working animal -- and carriage horses are undeniably hard working animals -- can really be considered abuse if it is not also considered abuse for humans to live and work in these urban conditions, or any other working animal for that matter.</div>
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I'm a little surprised this article was posted on Treehugger.<br><br>
For someone who 'adores' horses she seems a lot more focused on not wanting to give up the pleasure she gets from seeing horses in the city than on the welfare of the horses themselves. She refers to them as "working animals" as if the work they do is voluntary, but I'm sure if they had a choice they'd rather not drag humans around in carts while breathing in pollution for 9 hours a day.
 

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I guess she also agrees with slavery and a number of other things if she wants to use that reasoning. After all, people weren't meant to be slaves, but slavery went on for <i>many</i> centuries anyway and is still practiced in some places today.<br><br>
I doubt she's really looked at these horses if she claims to love them so much. It isn't terribly hard to see that most (at least in my city) seem to want to drop dead.
 

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I have no problem with horses drawing carriages if they're cared for, treated well, worked for only a few hours max each day, and are in the right enviornment, but the state of the New York carriage rides is awful, and even if they did otherwise care very well for the horses, no matter what they shouldn't be on the streets of New York.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>disney.jessica</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3023978"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I have no problem with horses drawing carriages if they're cared for, treated well, worked for only a few hours max each day, and are in the right enviornment, but the state of the New York carriage rides is awful, and even if they did otherwise care very well for the horses, no matter what they shouldn't be on the streets of New York.</div>
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I agree. There's no doubt that the horses used in New York city are overworked and that the big city environment just isn't right for them. I would love to see big cities phase out horse drawn carriages.
 

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"No, One Dead Horse Shouldn't Be the End of Carriage Rides"<br><br>
Umm ? Wonder how many she needs to see die ?
 
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