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wtf? my mom's trainer told her this... and I am like, dude... no... I mean, granted she could use some portion control... on her fat/meat/bread intake but fruits?! seriously? What is the thought behind this? because it makes me want to be <i>angry</i> at people.... How can I talk her down from this cliff? Should I even try, or does said stupid trainer have a point?<br><br>
BQ: They work out at a gym, almost daily for a couple hours. Lifting, treadmill, elliptical, etc. She is still overweight, but shes over 50 and shes looking better each year *pats mom on back*<br><br>
PPS.... I have an issue with trainers pretending they are dietitians. Do they actually get any training in dietary advise?
 

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That is really stupid. I mean yes, if you're eating 10 fruits a day and nothing else then you probably need to rein it in, but the average American eating the SAD should only be encouraged to eat more fruits and veggies. Especially if they're overweight.<br><br>
I don't limit my fruit intake.
 

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Because fruits are worthless, worthless, worthless.<br><br>
Eat some vegetables instead.
 

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sometimes people with insulin issues and other sugar related problems have to limit their fruit intake or not eat fruit at all because of the sugar content. However a personal trainer is not the one to decide this unless a doctor or dietician told your mom to limit her fruit, she needs to question her trainer as to the reason why he suggested this?
 

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Is he/she trying to suggest a low carb diet for her? That would be pretty awful. :x
 

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They need to talk to this guy:<br><img alt="" src="http://www.welikeitraw.com/rawfood/images/drgrahamrawfood.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><br>
That's Dr Doug Graham, who eats almost nothing but fruit. He suggests that people eat greens along with their fruit, and occasional nuts and seeds, and exercise as much as they can.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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sometimes people with insulin issues and other sugar related problems have to limit their fruit intake or not eat fruit at all because of the sugar content. However a personal trainer is not the one to decide this unless a doctor or dietician told your mom to limit her fruit, she needs to question her trainer as to the reason why he suggested this?</div>
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I wouldn't listen to anyone who told me not to eat fruit. My fasting blood sugar was in the mid 300's, and I am normal now from eating low fat, not low carbohydrate. I never got a diagnosis, because I never had medical insurance and couldn't afford medical care, but I got one of those blood glucose monitors and learned my blood sugar was way too high. My blood sugar stays healthy as long as I keep my percentage of fat calories no higher than 10%. This way I can eat all the fruit I want.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Hannah&me</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2847258"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><br><br>
wtf? my mom's trainer told her this... and I am like, dude... no... I mean, granted she could use some portion control... on her fat/meat/bread intake but fruits?! seriously? What is the thought behind this? because it makes me want to be <i>angry</i> at people.... How can I talk her down from this cliff? Should I even try, or does said stupid trainer have a point?<br><br>
BQ: They work out at a gym, almost daily for a couple hours. Lifting, treadmill, elliptical, etc. She is still overweight, but shes over 50 and shes looking better each year *pats mom on back*<br><br>
PPS.... I have an issue with trainers pretending they are dietitians. Do they actually get any training in dietary advise?</div>
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Sucks for your mom (if she listens to that drivel).<br><br>
I don't see how that affects you.
 

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I definitely agree that a trainer has no business telling a client what to eat. They can give advice if they want to, but they need to make it clear that they are <i>not</i> certified in that area. (They could be, but I'd guess most aren't.) According to an instructor that I spoke with recently, giving an eating plan to a client could even cause legal problems if any health problems were to arise because of it. Trainers are required to take a course on nutrition, but that doesn't make them a dietician.<br><br>
I can see why avoiding high sugar fruits might be a good idea, (bananas, mangoes, dried fruit, fruit juices) but there are plenty of low sugar fruits: berries, melons, apples, nectarines, grapefruit. Not all fruits are the same and to just group them all together and say, "Only eat two fruits!" is silly.<br><br>
P.S. I'm not a dietician or a trainer. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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I can see why avoiding high sugar fruits might be a good idea, (bananas, mangoes)</div>
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I've eaten bananas and still lost weight, so it depends on the person and their activity level... Everyone's different.
 

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I like fruit. Fruit is good. Fruit is also natural. Obviously, you shouldn't eat too much of anything, but this doesn't seem like the biggest issue. In my opinion, her trainer should be trying to focus on limiting her intake of processed foods. Once most of what she eats is natural, they can nitpick about sugar intake from fruit and the like.
 

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I had a personal trainer who told me not to eat fruit after 12pm. Also I wasn't allowed carbs with dinner.<br>
I'm not looking for a diet to make me lose weight, I want to eat balanced and healthy and in a way I can sustain for the rest of my life.<br><br>
I don't limit the amount of fruit I eat. I may eat 1 piece in a day, I may eat 3-4, depends on the day. I didn't get fat by eating fruit. If I'm feeling snacky and an apple is at hand, I'm going to eat the apple instead of turning to chips or whatever. Fruit is such a tool for me in my weight loss because I have a sweet tooth, and fruit usually curbs my cravings.
 

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A conversation with a previous trainer asked me how I could be healthy and get protein if I don't eat meat.<br><br>
lol, wtf
 

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the general lack of knowledge about nutrition amongst people who are trying to advise others is exasperating. i'll wager this guy is also advising people to eat 6 to 10 times more protein than they actually need, and is blissfully ignorant as far as any real knowledge of how the body works to eliminate excess protein.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>paisleyjane</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2848983"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I had a personal trainer who told me not to eat fruit after 12pm. Also I wasn't allowed carbs with dinner.<br>
I'm not looking for a diet to make me lose weight, I want to eat balanced and healthy and in a way I can sustain for the rest of my life.<br><br>
I don't limit the amount of fruit I eat. I may eat 1 piece in a day, I may eat 3-4, depends on the day. I didn't get fat by eating fruit. If I'm feeling snacky and an apple is at hand, I'm going to eat the apple instead of turning to chips or whatever. Fruit is such a tool for me in my weight loss because I have a sweet tooth, and fruit usually curbs my cravings.</div>
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have you considered the low fat vegan diet proposed by dr. mcdougall or dr. esselstyn? if you eat this way, you can eat all you want. there is no need for portion control. this really works and you will feel and look marvelous!
 
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