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i thought ive seen everything from the meat industry.. assuming they realize that a lot of people, but still say only 1% or less, of diesel truck/machine owners use bio fuels... they want their part in the market.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416/ap_on_bi_ge/conocophillips_tyson" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416/...phillips_tyson</a><br><br><br><br>
youd have to now be vegan to fill up at the pump :/ I for one would never use it in my new truck, animal fats would never keep the engine clean like a bio fuels, WVO or anything else thats currently used.. plus, id rather not smell like a pork rhine going downt the road..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dozey.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":tired:">
 

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That's digusting. I don't need dead body in my car. (Or, well, I wouldn't if I was old enough to drive and had a car, that is..)
 

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Ugh! Imagine the situation if it caught on and became popular?<br><br><br><br>
We'd protest about the anima fat, and we'd be met with:<br><br><br><br>
"Well, if you don't like it, keep using ordinary gas."
 

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According to the companies involved in this venture "this renewable source of energy will be cleaner than conventional diesel" and "It is chemically equivalent to diesel itself" plus "It has lower Carbon Dioxide, it is zero sulphur" (see <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6571993.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6571993.stm</a>).<br><br><br><br>
If all that is true, I would doubt that this product will be killed off by concerns about strange smells or the possibility that it won't burn as cleanly as other biofuels. Besides: "The diesel when produced will be pumped into a network and mixed with other types of diesel. It will not be possible to tell at petrol stations whether the diesel is made from animal fat or not."<br><br><br><br>
What makes this more sickening (for veg*ns who are also American tax payers) is that "The company expects to spend approximately 100 million dollars over several years on the project, and will probably enjoy tax breaks. Since 2005, US oil companies can benefit from a dollar-per-gallon tax incentive for creating renewable fuel from animal carcasses and other food wastes."<br><br><br><br>
Then there are the claims of environmental friendliness: "While other diesel products using grain, palm oil and sugar cane already exist in the form of bio ethanol, Mr Webster said that animal diesel will not be made at a cost to food production. 'We won't be processing animals simply to get the fat to turn them in to fuel. We're taking a by-product and using that for fuel,' Mr Webster said. 'We feel that it is a huge step forward as opposed to taking grains which are needed for food around the world and turning those in to fuel.'"<br><br><br><br>
Erm ... doesn't Tyson Foods (the livestock company involved in this project) already take "grains which are needed for food around the world" (by people)<br><br>
and feed them to their livestock - an incredibly wasteful way of feeding the human population? And what about the pollution from intensive animal husbandry? Their fuel may be lower in CO2 and sulphur, but what about the methane pumped out by the animals from which the fuel is to be made?<br><br><br><br>
As PETA has said in response to this news: "A recent report published by the United Nations concludes that the meat industry is responsible for more global warming emissions than all the cars, trucks and planes in the world combined. Clearly, the answer to global warming isn't to fill gas guzzling cars with ground up remains of tortured animals, it is to go vegetarian, which is something every person can afford to do and should do for the sake of their own health, animals and the environment." Let's hope more people will see the sense in that argument and go veggie.
 

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We can pretty much stop right there. The only renewability associated with this scheme is, as you said, the neverending tax-forgiveness.
 

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That's ... sick.<br><br><br><br>
I'm getting a truck in the future. I love trucks. I have to make up for the fact that I don't have a penis. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
But I'm getting a GMC Sierra with E85 capability. We have E85 available nearby. It's not real close so I'd have to go out of my way, but I'd do it to support the move to E85 ethanol.
 
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