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My husband just saw an ad on tv for a new show premiering this evening called "Chimp Mommy" and I can't believe this show is going to be on tv!?!<br><br>
Woman raising a chimp... puts it in clothes and glasses, travels with chimp and makes it look like a big joke....why will people never learn.<br><br><a href="http://www.cmt.ca/Programs/ProgramItem.aspx?prog_id=284" target="_blank">http://www.cmt.ca/Programs/ProgramItem.aspx?prog_id=284</a><br><br>
I emailed CMT about the show.<br><a href="http://www.cmt.ca/Misc/Contact.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.cmt.ca/Misc/Contact.aspx</a>
 

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how is this worse than people having dogs or cats that they dress up and do the same with?
 

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I disagree with the use of <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b>any</b></span> animals in entertainment but I am especially appaulled with the use of primates and other exotics due to the increased requirments that can not be met given the nature of the show.<br><br>
does this answer your question?
 

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sure.<br><br>
do you disagree with people having chimps similarly but without the use of a tv camera filming it??
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>unovegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2897192"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
sure.<br><br>
do you disagree with people having chimps similarly but without the use of a tv camera filming it??</div>
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I don't understand why this is even being asked since the answer is of course. Chimps are not humans and treating them as such can have horrible consequences for both the chimp and the people involved. (if you recall the chimp attack a few years back where a woman got maimed.)<br><br>
The rescues who are capable of handling these animals and are actively working toward the chimps best interests (rehabilitate, socialization with other rescued chimps, etc) are the only people who should be caring for these animals who have been taken out of their natural enviroment wrongfully in the first place.<br><br>
I what the point you are trying to get to?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>unovegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2897177"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
how is this worse than people having dogs or cats that they dress up and do the same with?</div>
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Chimps are permanently removed from their mothers as babies, so they can be more easily trained for entertainment. This causes the same pain it would for any human mother and baby to be separated. In nature the baby would spend years with his or her mother. The baby is taken only to be exploited for entertainment, and the training process involves abuse and fear, as they are young and easily distracted primates who have a job to do. When the chimp starts getting older, s/he is too dangerous to continue using. At this point they are generally sold into animal research, a zoo, used as a roadside attraction, or some other situation in which they spend the rest of their lives in cages. Even in the rare situations that they eventually go to sanctuaries, they have not learned how to interact with other chimps, and their lives continue to be difficult.<br><br>
Please read this about the connection between the entertainment industry and the laboratory<br><a href="http://www.neavs.org/programs/brochures/brochures_chimp.htm" target="_blank">http://www.neavs.org/programs/brochu...ures_chimp.htm</a><br><a href="http://www.chimps-inc.org/page.php?id=education_chimps&name=entertainment" target="_blank">http://www.chimps-inc.org/page.php?i...=entertainment</a>
 

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I don't understand why this is even being asked since the answer is of course. Chimps are not humans and treating them as such can have horrible consequences for both the chimp and the people involved. (if you recall the chimp attack a few years back where a woman got maimed.)<br><br>
The rescues who are capable of handling these animals and are actively working toward the chimps best interests (rehabilitate, socialization with other rescued chimps, etc) are the only people who should be caring for these animals who have been taken out of their natural enviroment wrongfully in the first place.<br><br>
I what the point you are trying to get to?</div>
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I'm just trying to understand what angle you're coming from.<br><br>
i wasn't sure if it was the humanizing aspect, the pet aspect (wasn't sure if you had/have an issue with humans having pets at all), etc.
 

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do you disagree with people having chimps similarly but without the use of a tv camera filming it??</div>
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chimps are very large, powerful, intelligent, and social animals who cannot safely be "used" as pets for life. Taking them out of their habitat necessitates a life in a cage.<br><br>
I'm assuming that you see the babies and aren't realizing that as soon as they get older they are no longer able to interact with humans as you see in entertainment.
 

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Are you not aware of the difference between a chimp and a monkey, unovegan? I'm trying to understand why you might think a chimp would be a possible pet.
 

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I'm not saying that i support either being a pet actually. I don't.
 

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ok Unovegan, I undertand that now, it came accross oddly at the time.
 

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I agree, but there's not even a remote comparison in being able to meet the needs of a dog or a cat as a pet vs. a chimp, so the line of questioning seemed very odd.
 

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ok Unovegan, I undertand that now, it came accross oddly at the time.</div>
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i wasn't trying to start something. I was just trying to figure out the why you had an issue with it. no biggie.
 

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I agree, but there's not even a remote comparison in being able to meet the needs of a dog or a cat as a pet vs. a chimp, so the line of questioning seemed very odd.</div>
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it's not even that. i was just wondering the view on keeping a pet in general, versus the needs of a particular being.
 

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I hope this happens and they get it on the show for all to see<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429/ns/us_news-life/t/teams-surgeons-operate-chimps-victim/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429...chimps-victim/</a>
 

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I hope this happens and they get it on the show for all to see<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429/ns/us_news-life/t/teams-surgeons-operate-chimps-victim/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429...chimps-victim/</a></div>
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that case makes me so angry. The idiot woman drugged her "pet" chimp with Xanax so he was out of it and not clear what he was doing. After he mauls the friend he gets shot by the police, and then goes back to his bedroom and dies, fearful, confused, and alone. Every single person in that chimp's life failed him, from the sadists who took him away from his mother as a baby so he could perform, to these people who pretended he was a human and not a large wild animal and thus at risk of getting hurt and killed like he was. He ought never to have had contact with humans, but at the point that he did, caring humans should have gotten him to a sanctuary.
 

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The use of primates in entertainment makes me especially sad.
 

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how is this worse than people having dogs or cats that they dress up and do the same with?</div>
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Cats and dogs have been bred throughout the centuries to be pets. Chimps have not.
 

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I hope this happens and they get it on the show for all to see<br><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429/ns/us_news-life/t/teams-surgeons-operate-chimps-victim/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429...chimps-victim/</a></div>
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Oh no, I really hope not! Past the pain and possible death, the chimp would be killed and also this would make some people view chimps as horribly aggressive animals toward humans.
 
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