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looking for a new car--so my husband would really like to get the toyota hybrid car, but he is really concerned about their reliablity. He drives an average of 65,000 miles a year doing his job, and really needs a car that can stand up to that kind of work. He would really like to support the environment and buy a hybrid car that would be better for the envrionment and better for our check book, but would a hybrid car be able to stand up to the demands of his job?? Does anyone know or have any experience with these cars???
 

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The Toyota Prius is the longest-running hybrid yet. The upcoming new model is <b>third</b> generation, which means it has been refined, and is probably more reliable than ever. Besides, it's a Toyota.<br><br><br><br>
Now, there's also lots of reviews about the car at the various websites, including carpoint.com and edmunds.com. Carpoint typically features reviews by actual drivers of that particular car, so that would be a good place to start.<br><br><br><br>
There's no doubt that my next car will be a hybrid.
 

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It would be my next car, is what it would be.<br><br><br><br>
I'm telling you, within ten years, most manufacturers will be using hybrid technology in the majority of their vehicles. It's here to stay, and it's actually GOOD for the car. The combo of combusion and electric can actually enhance acceleration, so there goes that complaint about wimpy cars, too.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Max Power</i><br><br><b>I saw a car show report about a year ago about a 12-cylinder BMW 5-series hybrid. How wikkid would THAT be?</b></div>
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That must be 7-series..the 5 don't have 12 pot engines.
 

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My next car WILL be a Toyota Prius. I saw the new design and fell in love with it all over again.<br><br><br><br>
I think that EVERY single manufacturer should start pushing out every car to be a hybrid car, or at least have plans to do it. I tend to think down the middle on many issues of this world. However, as far as the the enviroment goes, I think we need to start conserving and find more ways to save the earth's resources. I am tired of people saying that the oil is here for our taking and "God gave it to us to use up". That reasoning is so bizarre to me.<br><br><br><br>
Okay...I need to calm down. This has hit a sore spot. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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There is something about your question Smedley written at VeganRepresent.com ...so I'll try and extract the thread for you and post back here later if I can find it.......
 

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I like the overall body style of the honda civic much more than the prius.<br><br>
The prius' width is way to small for my taste.<br><br>
The both get similar MPG.<br><br>
Look for several new hybrids by the end of this year and next year.<br><br>
One that comes to mind is the Ford Excursion. It will be the first SUV that gets somewhere around 30-40MPG.<br><br><br><br>
Hybrids are best used for stop and start driving. They generate their electrical power through the act of braking.<br><br>
Because of this, if these are all highway miles a hybrid will not be as environmentally friendly as you would like it to be. It will mainly use its gas engine to produce the power used by the car.<br><br><br><br>
That being said I would still buy one if I had to buy a new car.<br><br><br><br>
Just a quick note on your car buying practices..<br><br>
Please, don't buy a new car every 5-7 years. The manufacturing process of building a new car is 10,000 times worse for the environment then even the worst SUV on the road.<br><br><br><br>
I have a link to a website that shows you what goes into a new car...I will find it and post it here later.<br><br><br><br>
The bottom line is, use the car you have now until it literally falls apart - Recycle it - then buy the most environmentally sound car you can.<br><br>
But don't buy a hybrid to replace a guzzler just because it gets better gas mileage! If your car hasn't fallen apart, someone else will probably be driving it shortly after you sell it.....
 

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this isn't the site I was thinking about, but...<br><br><a href="http://www.carbusters.org/freesources/stats.php" target="_blank">http://www.carbusters.org/freesources/stats.php</a><br><br><br><br>
"Pollution During Manufacturing<br><br><br><br>
"The rate of production of new cars is difficult to assimilate: an annual output of 48 million means that, somewhere in the world, one new car appears every second. In eight hours, 40,000 new cars will have been built; in a day, 100,000. With a growth in the human population of some 90 million a year, the arrival of two new babies is accompanied with the arrival of one new car. And this rate of growth is, we are assured by the transport lobby, set to continue. Mackenzie and Walsh, in their report Driving Forces, estimate that the world total of trucks and carsmore than 500 millioncould double to one billion in the next twenty years." (4)<br><br><br><br>
Manufacturing process involves not just the raw materials such as steel, iron, rubber, plastics and aluminium, but large amounts of substances that deplete the ozone layer, are greenhouse gasses, or use huge quantities of energy.<br><br>
Iron and Steel Making: needs large amounts of coal and limestone. A major producer of sulfur dioxide, acids and slag waste.<br><br>
Aluminium Production: involves substantial soil degradation in bauxite mining. Smelters release sulfur dioxide and are substantial energy users.<br><br>
Zinc and Lead Industries. Considerable waste problems and a variety of health threats.<br><br>
Copper Smelting: sulfur dioxide emissions.<br><br>
Platinum Production: six million tonnes of ore a year have to be refined for catalytic converters<br><br>
Emissions From Other Pollutants: sulfuric acid for batteries; heavy metals and VOCs in paints; mercury in circuits; CFCs and other greenhouse gases used in foam seats and body parts; asbestos in brake pads. (1)<br><br><br><br>
An average of 27 tons of waste is produced during the manufacture of one car.(12)<br><br><br><br>
Pollution During Disposal<br><br><br><br>
Disposal of old cars and car componentstyres, batteries and oil further increase the environmental impact of the car.<br><br>
Cars use 10 percent of OECD plastics production, for a whole range of fittings, from fuel tanks to door handles. Disposal of the large amounts of PVC, polyurethane, polyprone and high density polythene used in cars is difficult. Over three-quarters of a million tonnes of scrap plastic were produced in 1990 just from cars in Europe. (1)<br><br>
In 1988, 209.5 million car tyres, 42.7 million truck tyres and 19 million road tyres were produced in the USA alone. Over 320 million were sold in Japan, France, West Germany and the UK Of all these tyres, only 30 percent are re-treaded, the bulk of the remainder are dumped. There disposal is very problematic. Heated in the absence of oxygen, tyres produce vast quantities of oil, more than a gallon rep tyre, accompanied by thick black smoke. Dump fires are extremely polluting. (1)<br><br>
Car dumps themselves cause local pollution with high concentrations of lead, cadium and zinc. (1)<br><br>
On average, each dumped vehicle contains six litres of lubricating oils, three litres of fuel , five litres of cooling liquid and three litres of sulfuric acid. (1)<br><br>
100 million batteries are discarded per year. Their sulfuric acid contents represent a substantial environmental threat. (1)<br><br>
In Western Europe, Japan and the USA nearly 40 million cars are discarded every year. (1)<br><br><br><br>
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The Environmental Cost of One Car<br><br><br><br>
Extracting Raw Materials:<br><br>
26.5 tonnes of waste<br><br>
922 cubic metres of polluted air<br><br><br><br>
Transporting Raw Materials:<br><br>
12 litres of crude oil in the ocean<br><br>
425 million cubic litres of polluted air<br><br><br><br>
Producing the Car:<br><br>
1.5 tonnes of waste<br><br>
74 million cubic litres of polluted air<br><br><br><br>
Driving the Car:<br><br>
18.4 kilos of abrasive waste<br><br>
1,016 million cubic litres of polluted air<br><br><br><br>
Disposing of the Car:<br><br>
102 million cubic litres of polluted air.<br><br><br><br>
A car causes more pollution before it's ever driven than in it's entire lifetime of driving."
 
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