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It's a step in the right direction, but why not just eat an all-soy burger? I hate the way people have that " I absolutley HAVE TO have meat" attitude.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">meatless burgers seem to lack the flavor and consistency of real beef</div>
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<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/veryangry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":grr:"> Cleary this person never actually tried a veggie burger.
 

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Um, I actually think that's a true statement you quoted. There are good veggie burgers, but they are NOT decent mimics of beef burgers. I've had ONE-- exactly ONE-- that was actually enough like meat to sort of "pass," and while it was good, it certainly didn't fool me, and I haven't eaten meat in over a year. If hybrid burgers might mean fewer cows slaughtered (and fewer heart attacks?), then I'm all for it. But I'm slighty afraid it might mean some people will simply consume more burgers because they'll be misled into thinking this is somehow healthy.<br><br><br><br>
Also, I can't believe people still spout the protein "quality" bit. It was established years and years ago that vegetarian protein is as high a "quality" as animal protein.<br><br><br><br>
Also, I'm deeply disturbed at the implication in the article they might be taking meat protein, blending it with soy, and then selling the product as a meatless food.
 

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I figured they had used soy as a filler in burgers for years.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Tess: True. This is NOT a "meatless" product.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gas4</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Nobody's going to eat this product, onmis want just meat, veges want just soy, why combine them?</div>
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Good point. I don't see what type of consumers will be buying a half-beef, half-soy burger. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gas4</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Nobody's going to eat this product, onmis want just meat, veges want just soy, why combine them?</div>
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There's always a market for cheaper / healthier.<br><br><br><br>
There was an article somewhere that said veggieburgers biggest market is to health-conscience omnivores.
 

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I think there are people who would eat part soy burgers for health reasons if they tasted as good as what they're used to. I've encountered plenty of people whose only gripe about veggie burgers is "they don't taste like the real thing."<br><br><br><br>
Froggy, did you notice the part in the article where it says "...a patent-pending invention called SoleCina that involves both the process and the ingredients to produce either a hybrid meat part soy, part real meat <b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">or a completely meatless food</span></b>..."<br><br><br><br>
It's that last phrase that really freaks me out... how can it be "completely meatless" if it "involves both the process and the ingredients?" And are they planning on billing whatever this other product is as a vegetarian food? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>veggiejanie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Good point. I don't see what type of consumers will be buying a half-beef, half-soy burger. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"></div>
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I was under the impression that fast food companies commonly used textured soy protein as a filler.<br><br><br><br>
I tried searching on McDonald's site for ingredients, but they only say "beef patty" for hamburgers.<br><br><br><br>
They also say "100% Beef Patty" as an ingredient for a few of their more expensive burgers.<br><br><br><br>
That's a bit strange.<br><br><br><br>
Totally unrelated, I did find <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Rice_Burger#MOS_Rice_Burger" target="_blank">this oddity</a> when I searched for burger ingredients. It sounds tasty.
 

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I gathered it just meant that it could make hybrid burgers and true soy burgers both.</div>
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Well, I hope that's what it means. Hope springs eternal, ya know...
 

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I was under the impression that fast food companies commonly used textured soy protein as a filler.<br><br><br><br>
I tried searching on McDonald's site for ingredients, but they only say "beef patty" for hamburgers.<br><br><br><br>
They also say "100% Beef Patty" as an ingredient for a few of their more expensive burgers.<br><br><br><br>
That's a bit strange.<br><br><br><br>
Totally unrelated, I did find <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Rice_Burger#MOS_Rice_Burger" target="_blank">this oddity</a> when I searched for burger ingredients. It sounds tasty.</div>
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That's been a myth for years and years, that McDonald burgers contain soy... but there not any truth to the rumor.
 

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<<Shivers>> I personally have trouble with anything that tastes, feels, or looks like meat... it seems contradictory to stop eating meat and want something that tastes and looks like it....
 

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<<Shivers>> I personally have trouble with anything that tastes, feels, or looks like meat... it seems contradictory to stop eating meat and want something that tastes and looks like it....</div>
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Me too. But I guess maybe some people don't eat meat but still like the taste or texture, this might be particularly true for people who don't eat it for health reasons as opposed to the whole death reason, which is the reason I find it so gross.
 

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<<Shivers>> I personally have trouble with anything that tastes, feels, or looks like meat... it seems contradictory to stop eating meat and want something that tastes and looks like it....</div>
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How is it contradictory...<br><br><br><br>
...if you eat vegetarian food for health reasons, and the faux item is healty?<br><br><br><br>
...if you eat vegetarian for ethical reasons, and the faux item hasn't hurt any living creature?
 

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Seems like a waste of time. Veg*ns obviously won't eat it. And burger-munchers won't either. Remember when McDonald's came out with it's McLean burger, which was lower-fat because it was made with beef extended with plant-based fillers? McDonald's customers laughed about the "seaweed burgers" and they failed miserably.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>kpickell</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
There's always a market for cheaper / healthier.<br><br><br><br>
There was an article somewhere that said veggieburgers biggest market is to health-conscience omnivores.</div>
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Thats right. The biggest growth demographic of meatless products consumers are 'meat reducers' or people who would never dream of going vegetarian but want to reduce the amount of meat they consume. The people buying most of Linda McCartneys products are not vegetarians...
 

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How is it contradictory...<br><br><br><br>
...if you eat vegetarian food for health reasons, and the faux item is healty?<br><br><br><br>
...if you eat vegetarian for ethical reasons, and the faux item hasn't hurt any living creature?</div>
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I can agree with this. Although I usually use tofu, I do use meat substitute in my vegan chili and I have had sandwiches with fake deli meat.<br><br><br><br>
I was a meat-eater for years and I stand firmly by my beliefs, but the whole "Fake meat is contradictory" thing makes no sense whatsoever. I don't agree with cruelty and I prefer to be healthier, but that does not mean I think meat tastes bad. Meat just <i>is</i> bad.<br><br><br><br>
That's like saying, "Soy milk is a contradiction to a vegan's beliefs because milk is supposed to be disgusting to them because of what happens to dairy cows."<br><br><br><br>
I disagree that this is at all contradictory.
 

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My boyfriend sent me a link to that, and said I should just eat that instead.<br><br>
Hah!<br><br>
But hey, he seemed interested, so if it'll get HIM stepping in the right direction, then go go go hybrid burger!<br><br>
I agree with Tesseract, less animals slaughtered, then it's got to do some good.
 
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