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Duh, I just spend about 5 minutes looking through the states for Las Vegas *smacks self on forehead*

Anyhow, we are going there in February.

How far of a drive would you say it is from Vegas to:

Hoover Dam

Grand Canyon

Death Valley

We'd like to see all three and I'm planning a road trip for one of the days we are there. I can't find any good info on the distance. Also, is it warm enough to drive with the top down if we rent a convertible? Any info you can give would be fantabulous!
 

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Hoover Dam is under an hour's drive from the middle of Las Vegas, I think. I can't say for sure, because from where I live in Nevada (*ahem* Boulder City, the dam town!) it's hardly a twenty minute drive to the dam.

It should definitely be warm enough to drive with the top down. It usually stays around 40-60 degrees in the winter on the worst days, lately we've been in the upper 60's lower 70s.

Vegas can be nice if you stay in the right areas (i.e. If you want the ghetto, go to Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard- I used to live there, so I know it's pretty bad. It's gotten worse in the years since I've left...), and even a life-long desert dweller like myself has to admit that some of the casinos are really spectacular. If you go to the Bellagio, check out their indoor garden. They decorate it really well for every holiday, and I believe the Chinese new year is in february? (I could be wrong!) If so, they do an amazing job decorating it then, I went this year at that time and it was gorgeous! Plus they have a nice watershower every half hour or so.

Also, if you get a chance, come say hi in Boulder City! We have some quaint restaurants (with veg*n options!) as well as a resident veggie or two.
 

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Never mind. I just discovered that it's too far to drive to the Canyon and Death Valley. We may take one of those plane tours to the canyon instead of driving the 5+ hours to get there.
ohhh. can i please advise against the plane tour? those things are so obstrusive to the natural beauty and so environmentally unfriendly - creating noise pollution, etc.

the drive is pretty. plus, if you do the drive, you can stop in flagstaff AZ and it's definitely worth it.
veggie places to eat and everything!

how long will you be in vegas? you should see a mystere show. definitely worth the money.

i'm going in march for a little while


nau -i've spent a lot of time in boulder city, it's not a bad place....but i hate the dam!
 

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nau -i've spent a lot of time in boulder city, it's not a bad place....but i hate the dam!
The dam is a bit of annoyance, but it supplies some much needed jobs, so I can't be against it too much. I haven't been to it in a few years (aside from the lake, where there's a little hidden branch of the lake you can follow and see the dam from the bottom, which is actually kind of impressive), so I don't know how horrible traffic has gotten. I've heard it's really bad, though.

I think I've been to Flagstaff- at least, I think I have. I know I've been to Arizona a few times to visit family (not recently, though), I just don't remember the exact town...That may have been it, though, it sounds really familiar!
 

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The dam is a bit of annoyance, but it supplies some much needed jobs, so I can't be against it too much. I haven't been to it in a few years (aside from the lake, where there's a little hidden branch of the lake you can follow and see the dam from the bottom, which is actually kind of impressive), so I don't know how horrible traffic has gotten. I've heard it's really bad, though.

I think I've been to Flagstaff- at least, I think I have. I know I've been to Arizona a few times to visit family (not recently, though), I just don't remember the exact town...That may have been it, though, it sounds really familiar!
heh, Flag is a cute little town, it's got the san francisco peaks right behind it (so if ya remember seeing some decent size mountains - that's it!).

my brother did search and rescue and was a ranger at hoover damn and lake mead for a long time, so i have done some interning there and stuff. cant deny it's impressive as far as man made construction goes - i got to see the 'special' tour underneath and everything which was kinda cool.

its just that overall, dams have so many more bad effects than good ones- socially, culturally, environmentally, etc. heh, i won't be too annoying though (i'm doing my senior paper and some other projects on the three gorges damn in china so i'm on a kick!).

but one more thing, lake mead is soooo polluted! icky. we would go patrolling on it and get into little coves and it was some of the nastiest stuff ive seen.

get this- when my brother was working one day and some guy let his THREE year old ride the jetski himself, the kid fell off (not surprinsgly) and was luckily ok, but wow...
 

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ohhh. can i please advise against the plane tour? those things are so obstrusive to the natural beauty and so environmentally unfriendly - creating noise pollution, etc.

the drive is pretty. plus, if you do the drive, you can stop in flagstaff AZ and it's definitely worth it.
veggie places to eat and everything!

how long will you be in vegas? you should see a mystere show. definitely worth the money.

i'm going in march for a little while


nau -i've spent a lot of time in boulder city, it's not a bad place....but i hate the dam!
Thanks. I hadn't really thought of that end of it (small plane ruinning the scene and all). I never fly places like that in small planes. I'd love to see the canyon, but I don't want to do the 5 hour drive. We're only there for 4 nights/5 days. Is there any desert stuff we can see that is closer? I'm talking like no more than an hours drive. A ghost town would be cool. I've always wanted to photograph desert flowers and rock formations too. I don't want to spend the whole time doing the casino thing. I want to visit nature!
Suggestions?

Oh, by best friend and her husband decided last night to come with us.
That's definitely thee shiznit!
 

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Thanks. I hadn't really thought of that end of it (small plane ruinning the scene and all). I never fly places like that in small planes. I'd love to see the canyon, but I don't want to do the 5 hour drive. We're only there for 4 nights/5 days. Is there any desert stuff we can see that is closer? I'm talking like no more than an hours drive. A ghost town would be cool. I've always wanted to photograph desert flowers and rock formations too. I don't want to spend the whole time doing the casino thing. I want to visit nature!
Suggestions?

Oh, by best friend and her husband decided last night to come with us.
That's definitely thee shiznit!
oh! thats cool your friend is going! you guys will have fun!

you should go to red rocks ...it's really nice! thats probably the closest natural area around - and its definitely worth it. here's a website(s)

http://www.americansouthwest.net/nev...anyon/nca.html

http://www.danheller.com/nevada-redrock.html (mainly pics)

check out valley of Fire also - it's really close to lake mead, and shouldnt take you long to get to.

check out the website : http://parks.nv.gov/vf.htm
 

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I've been to both the Valley of Fire and Redrock, they're really amazing. Valley of Fire has all sorts of indian paintings (I can't remember the correct term right now, sorry) to see, and it's got some really nice hiking/climbing, as does redrock (sans the paintings but with very red stones), check them out if you can. There's also Mt. Charleston, but I think that's an hour's drive and I don't know if you want to come out to the desert to see snow (though it'll most likely be melted by the time you're coming out).

Oh yeah, I don't even swim in Lake Mead anymore. I've seen dead fish floating around, people urinating in there (it's like a constant flow, too! So gross! Drunken partiers going out on their boats, drinking too much and relieving themselves off the side of their house boats, blech.), I've even see a few peices of human fecal matter floating around. My dad goes fairly often (windsurfing and sailing), but I can't stand it. If I'm going to be exposed to excretion in my water, I want it to be fish poopies in the OCEAN, at least it's much more diluted.


Anyhow, I hope you have fun when you come out here, and if you get a chance, come say hi! It'd be awesome to meet a fellow VBer.
We could go out to lunch or something, maybe.
 

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I've been to both the Valley of Fire and Redrock, they're really amazing. Valley of Fire has all sorts of indian paintings (I can't remember the correct term right now, sorry) to see, and it's got some really nice hiking/climbing, as does redrock (sans the paintings but with very red stones), check them out if you can. There's also Mt. Charleston, but I think that's an hour's drive and I don't know if you want to come out to the desert to see snow (though it'll most likely be melted by the time you're coming out).

Oh yeah, I don't even swim in Lake Mead anymore. I've seen dead fish floating around, people urinating in there (it's like a constant flow, too! So gross! Drunken partiers going out on their boats, drinking too much and relieving themselves off the side of their house boats, blech.), I've even see a few peices of human fecal matter floating around. My dad goes fairly often (windsurfing and sailing), but I can't stand it. If I'm going to be exposed to excretion in my water, I want it to be fish poopies in the OCEAN, at least it's much more diluted.


Anyhow, I hope you have fun when you come out here, and if you get a chance, come say hi! It'd be awesome to meet a fellow VBer.
We could go out to lunch or something, maybe.
oh yeah, i forgot about mt charleston, ut i guess that's a bit of a drive. petroglyphs! right? at valley of fire...i gotta go back there, i got to do some hiking last time but not enough! its never enough! i'm hoping to go climbing at red rocks in march, if not climbing definitely lots of hiking.

fish poopies, hee hee
and i agree! my bf seems to think there is clean water in any body of water (if i take him to lake mead - surely he will learn!). have you been to lake mohave? it's not AS bad as mead...
 

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oh yeah, i forgot about mt charleston, ut i guess that's a bit of a drive. petroglyphs! right? at valley of fire...i gotta go back there, i got to do some hiking last time but not enough! its never enough! i'm hoping to go climbing at red rocks in march, if not climbing definitely lots of hiking.

fish poopies, hee hee
and i agree! my bf seems to think there is clean water in any body of water (if i take him to lake mead - surely he will learn!). have you been to lake mohave? it's not AS bad as mead...
I've probably been to Lake Mohave with my dad on one of his Yacht club regattas (he sails a 16 foot hobie cat yacht- two hulls, etc). I don't remember specifically, though...Is it the one with all the willow-esque trees? I know I lost a barbie gelly shoe in the mud at a lake with those trees, but I don't know if that was Mohave, Havasu, Big Bear or some other lake.

My dad is the same way about water! If I say anything, he rolls his eyes and says that it'll make me stronger by being exposed to the bacteria. But didn't some kids in florida die because of the bacteria (technically, it was amoebas, but it's a microorganism!) in the water? Bah!

If you don't mind my asking, where do you live, Funk? It sounds like you've been to Nevada a few times, it made me wonder. You've probably done more here than I have, and I've been here for over 10 years!
 

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I've probably been to Lake Mohave with my dad on one of his Yacht club regattas (he sails a 16 foot hobie cat yacht- two hulls, etc). I don't remember specifically, though...Is it the one with all the willow-esque trees? I know I lost a barbie gelly shoe in the mud at a lake with those trees, but I don't know if that was Mohave, Havasu, Big Bear or some other lake.

My dad is the same way about water! If I say anything, he rolls his eyes and says that it'll make me stronger by being exposed to the bacteria. But didn't some kids in florida die because of the bacteria (technically, it was amoebas, but it's a microorganism!) in the water? Bah!

If you don't mind my asking, where do you live, Funk? It sounds like you've been to Nevada a few times, it made me wonder. You've probably done more here than I have, and I've been here for over 10 years!
i live in NC actually.


but, i went to school in Flagstaff (only 4-5 hour drive from the vegas area), for three years. and during most of that time, my sister and her fam lived in Boulder City and the Lake Mohave area- so i visited them often. plus, back in high school they lived there too so i flew ou t there a few times a year and spent a couple summers in that area.

now, my parents own a little house by red rock state park that ive been to a few times.

heh, i actually complain about the vegas area a lot, just cause of the smog and the tourists and well, the whole vegas thing, but i have to admit there are some amazingly beautiful areas in that area too.

i went hiking solo (stupid) a few years ago our in the desert by mohave and saw a mountain lion. that was AWSOME! and terrifying!

i just wish there were more sacred spots out there, ya know - it's all touristy and stuff .

but i'm looking forward to going back to valley of fire and red rocks.

barbie gelly! heh
i remember thos things!
 

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Nope sorry, im from Moapa Valley, if you know where that is, its kinda by lake mead and valley of fire though.

I love visiting valley of fire, its really nice and the petroglyphs are awsome, i even found an arrowhead, but i dont think that was at valley of fire, but by a place near me. anywhere out there is a nice place to go though, as long as its not all too close to vegas.

has anyone seen the wild horses in between vegas and parump? i have they are simply gorgeous! and huge!
 
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