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I just saw this on News.com and found it interesting. Apparently several of the big music labels are quietly funding the development of software programs that will masquerade as actual music files that, when accessed, will do anything from redirect you to the online store to buy the music to actually locking up the computer for a specified period of time (risking data loss).<br><br><br><br>
The RIAA apparently sees this as a justifiable system to thwart online filesharing, especially in light of the recent court decision where the RIAA lost its case against Grokster and Morpheus.<br><br><br><br>
Interesting.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-999612.html?tag=fd_top" target="_blank">http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-999612.html?tag=fd_top</a>
 

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I heard about that, as well as movie makers putting large files online that look like they are a movie, but once downloaded are nothing.<br><br><br><br>
I am thinking of filing a lawsuit against them all, because several years ago I uploaded a huge file and made it out to be some amazing software, then posted about it in various places so people would waste all that time downloading it (it actually went through an install routine to keep them fooled until the last possible minute).... and this was back when there was no broadband. I hate when my ideas get stolen.
 

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I think that's kind of taking it a little far. Should they really be allowed to screw up your computer? How about instead of trying all these half-as*ed tactics at getting people to stop downloading music, they start lowering the prices of something that doesn't even cost more than a dollar to make.<br><br>
And, how about they learn to realize that not everyone downloads to avoid buying an album but to sample it out <i>before</i> paying a ridiculous price for it! It may come as a surprise to them, but the general CD-buying public doesn't make enough to where they can pay up to $18.00 for all the music they want. Most of us aren't "talented" enough to make seven figure incomes singing songs we didn't write and whoring ourselves out to soda companies, not naming names or anything.
 

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Isn't that illegal?<br><br><br><br>
I've downloaded several files that were fakes. I don't really mind the songs, but it pisses me off when it's 700MB to 900MB, or more.
 

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I'd like to see artists **** the music corporations off entirely and have stuff available for download (by paid subscription)..... the music corporations **** the artists over big time.<br><br>
But then that's what it's all about, making money.
 

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Apple, well.... if you're downloading a 900mb file (which I assume is a game), then really you should be paying the money for the game. Most of them are only 40 or 50 bucks and if you enjoy them and play them often, then it surely is worth the money.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by majake</i><br><br><b>sounds like vigilante justice to me.</b></div>
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Sounds like the same mentality (or lack thereof) of the ALF <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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On this I would agree. If you damage property you do not own, then you are a criminal. It's that simple. And, if the RIAA proceeds with this, then yes, I would certainly classify them as criminals.
 

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What about people downloading songs because they own the cd but it got damaged? Or they want to listen to the songs on their computer but aren't able to make them into mp3s themselves? Unless these companies really know the movtives behind why these songs are being downloaded, it really isn't fair to punish them.
 

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Oz, its not the record company's fault if someone has let their CD become unplayable or damaged. And there are many software programs around that will let you rip a tune into an mp3 format.<br><br><br><br>
I do agree though that it "should" be okay for people to make rips of their own tunes for personal use and really... what's the difference in making rips of your own music and putting it on CD or using a cassette tape deck to make a mixed tape.<br><br><br><br>
The RIAA and MPAA had hissy fits over VCR's and Cassette decks... and still in the end, the consumer won. Now you can even buy dual dubbing VCR's and Cassette decks.<br><br><br><br>
My guess is in the end, the consumer is going to be able to do pretty much all of the stuff the RIAA and MPAA are trying to stop.
 

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I do it and I don't feel guilty about it but I'm the first to admit that I know it's wrong. I'm just out to enjoy it while I can. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
I don't care what they charge for a CD - that doesn't change the fact that it is their property and theirs to sell. If there is demand for an $18 CD then that's what they'll sell it for. Before you say "their wouldn't be file-sharing if CD's were cheaper" who says they have to be cheaper? Many people can't afford a $15,000 car - that doesn't mean Ford should start selling them for $8,000 and it doesn't make it ok to steal it.<br><br><br><br>
I'm not defending the record companies at all. I just get tired of seeing people try to justify something that is obviously illegal.<br><br><br><br>
If $18 is too much and you don't want your money going to the record companies just buy all of your CD's on eBay. Gee, I wonder how long until they go after them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> Remember when they were going after independent music stores for selling used CD's? Anyway, if they do half of what they want to do they won't get another cent from me, I'll be buying all of my music off of eBay. It's not like there is much out I want these days anyway. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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I know certain warez d00ds who will crumple to the floor, crying their eyes out if this passes... no exaggeration. I'm not sure that I know what to think about it. Downloading mp3s isn't like stealing the CDs themselves. I know I've bought way more CDs since the popularization of mp3s. I heard somewhere that Napster actually caused the sales of record companies to rise, though I'm not certain how true that is. As to software... I can see where that'd be more justified. I know that downloading a game would make me far less likely to go out and buy it.<br><br><br><br>
In any case, I'm not sure what to think.
 

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Never been much into file sharing. And if anything, downloads would make me more likely to buy an album, not less. If I hear a couple songs from an artist and like them, I am too lazy to search for every song on an album and then download them, and then burn them, etc. Easier to just buy the dumb thing.<br><br><br><br>
I heard that people were getting pop-ups from record companies warning them that they are not annonymous and will be prosecuted. My question to you Robert- how could a music company cause a pop-up on a kazaa user's screen without kazaa's cooperation?<br><br><br><br>
I reduced my music purchasing long before mp3's because I think they have been ripping us off on the price of CD's all these years, and there is very little good music out there (of what is being heavily promoted, anyway). There are less known people who's music might be worth it, but I already have a huge CD collection, so I am not in much of a hurry to buy more- I don't listen to music much anymore, anyhow.
 

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It's just the fact that they make such a big deal about it and do such half-as*ed things to stop it that make it stupid. I personally don't see anything wrong with downloading songs when you plan on buying the album. And what about if you only want one song? It's dumb to pay for 10 or 12 more songs you don't even like, and the only artists they really make singles for are the Top 40 f*cks.<br><br>
Point is, the record companies are still making profits. Each album that wasn't bought because someone decided to download the album instead of buying it will still get bought, or else these artists wouldn't be going multi-platinum.<br><br>
Not only are CD's overpriced but the top major record labels are guilty of price-fixing. They don't seem to have a problem f*cking the customers, but it's a different story when they're on the receiving end.<br><br>
No matter how many people avoid buying albums, at the end of the day, they're still making more money than I'll ever see in my lifetime, both the labels and the artists. People are going to keep file sharing no matter what they do to try and stop it, and it serves them right for their dishonest selling methods.
 
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