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I've been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for years, but have recently developed pain in my knees and elbows, radiating down my arms and legs. It's gotten so bad that I'm taking Advil every day. My doctor is puzzled and is running blood work. I am 41, in excellent physical shape, thin, and work out regularly. I have recently cut down on dairy and also have been eating fewer bean/rice combos, not intentionally but just have gotten incredibly busy, so I'm trying to fix that. I take a multi-vitamin and just added fish oil which grosses me out, but I'm not sure what else to do! Has anyone ever had this? I'm starting to worry that something serious is wrong...
 

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A had some unusual pain in my joints and lower spine last year and was diagnosed with a vitamin d deficiency. it disappeared after a six month course of vitamin d tablets.<br><br>
with regard to the fish supplement, if it is omega 3 you are concerned about, there are non animal sources available. I use the opti3 brand.
 

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Maybe you should consider trying a raw or semi-raw diet for a few weeks and get rid of the grains as well. Grains are not good for you although you can minimize the damage they do to your body by soaking them for 24 hours before cooking. Do a Google search on 'soaking grains' or 'phytic acid in grains'.<br><br>
I started really pushing the fresh fruits and vegetables and eliminated all gluten containing grains from our diet about 3 weeks ago and my husband who is 60 and has complained for years about his chronic low level muscle aches just mentioned last night that it doesn't hurt as much when he presses on his muscles.<br><br>
You should give it a try. I've been reading lots of good things about and maybe it will help. You never know.
 

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Maybe you should consider trying a raw or semi-raw diet for a few weeks and get rid of the grains as well. Grains are not good for you although you can minimize the damage they do to your body by soaking them for 24 hours before cooking. Do a Google search on 'soaking grains' or 'phytic acid in grains'.<br><br>
I started really pushing the fresh fruits and vegetables and eliminated all gluten containing grains from our diet about 3 weeks ago and my husband who is 60 and has complained for years about his chronic low level muscle aches just mentioned last night that it doesn't hurt as much when he presses on his muscles.<br><br>
You should give it a try. I've been reading lots of good things about and maybe it will help. You never know.</div>
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Raw diets typically include nuts and seeds don't they? Those have phytic acid.
 

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I've been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for years, but have recently developed pain in my knees and elbows, radiating down my arms and legs. It's gotten so bad that I'm taking Advil every day. My doctor is puzzled and is running blood work. I am 41, in excellent physical shape, thin, and work out regularly. I have recently cut down on dairy and also have been eating fewer bean/rice combos, not intentionally but just have gotten incredibly busy, so I'm trying to fix that. I take a multi-vitamin and just added fish oil which grosses me out, but I'm not sure what else to do! Has anyone ever had this? I'm starting to worry that something serious is wrong...</div>
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If you have chronic pain, but nothing can be found wrong with you physically, that is actually not all that uncommon. I would keep trying to diagnose with your doctor obviously, but it's possible the problem could be psychological (i.e. your brain signaling to you that you're in pain when it shouldn't). I'm speaking from memory of what little I know about chronic pain so take what I say with a grain of salt and look into it on your own.
 

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My joint/muscle aches are usually caused by unknowingly tensing up when anxious. Don't know if that would apply to you. Sometimes, I tense up so much, it hurts for days afterwards. Hope you and your doctor figure something out so that you can find some relief!
 

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Raw diets typically include nuts and seeds don't they? Those have phytic acid.</div>
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Your right they do, but if you soak them for 24 hours and then use them, you've activated the phytase which in turn de-activates the phytic acid to a great degree.<br><br>
But with wheat which has high levels of phytic acid, you also have the gluten which I've read, has negative effects on a huge number of people who've never been diagnosed with celiac disease. And the outcome of that is the very real risk of nutritional deficiencies which often cause things like thyroid issues, diabetes, osteoporosis, skin issues and a few other things. After reading about these problems, I just took most grains off the menu because most of them have gluten. And it seems to be making a difference for us, so I'd be willing to recommend giving it a try to anybody. Like I said, it sure can't hurt except maybe be an inconvenience for a bit.
 
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