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I have started drinking 16 oz. of Eden Soy 'extra' each day. This soy milk is fortified with Vit D, B-12, calcium, folic acid etc.. I have stopped taking my multi vit., do you think i should keep taking it in addition to the fortified soy milk? I'm just worried about over loading my system with too many suppliments, is this even possible?<br><br>
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I drink loads and loads of fortified soymilk, but I'm also taking multi vitamins. I only really started on the multi vitamins because I had a terrible sinus infection, so I'll probably stop taking them when I run out.
 

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I think there is a possibility of overdosing on a certain few vitamins and minerals. If you think you eat a variety of veggies/fruits, enriched/fortified foods, then you probably don't need supplements. Alot of foods these days are now fortified with folic acid and other good stuff. I think its best to strive to eat a healthy diet, it comes with more benefits than just the vitamins and minerals.<br><br><br><br>
Here's what I am trying to do this year. I'm trying to eat better, and get my vitamins/minerals/fiber in my foods. If I have a bad week where I know I ate badly, then I take multi-vitamin supplements. I also take an Omega-3 flaxseed oil capsule everyday, except on the days where I eat foods that have a super dose of these EFAs, like in my hemp waffles or Natural Oven breads.<br><br><br><br>
I do think that certain vitamins you can take way more than the RDA and benefit. One of these, I believe, is Vitamin C. Thus, this week, one of my goals is to research this a bit more, and find me a good Vitamin C supplement. Others I suspect that are beneficial in larger doses include Vitamin C (unless you suffer from kidney stones), vitamin E, and beta carotene for the antioxident effects. Vitamins A, D, and some B, may be harmful in huge megadoses. As for calcium, excess protein will leach calcium out of your body, so don't go overboard on protein.<br><br><br><br>
I just started drinking Eden Soy, but the low fat kind. I hear Eden Soy uses all organic ingredients. I did see the fortified version on the shelves, maybe I'll try it sometime, but I'm always looking for low-fat, lo-cal stuff. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I'm not a nutritionist, so keep that in mind. I just have an obsessive desire to learn more about healthy nutrition. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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i use multi's and a calcium supplement with magnesium, but i don't take them every day. probably like once or twice a week, when i remember. it's because i have fortified soymilk every morning, so i feel like i don't really need to worry too much about most vitamins and minerals. the main reason i do take the multi now and then is to make sure my B12 levels are ok. B vitamins are stored in the body for a long time, so i don't think it's really necessary to take it every day unless you're already deficient to the point that you can't process it properly anymore.<br><br><br><br>
but, i do find on days when i take my supplements in the morning, i have a lot more energy throughout the day, so i'm thinking about taking them more often. but also i read up on symptoms of deficiencies and i think i'm low on a few things in particular, so i may just start taking those daily and continue taking the multi weekly to complement my diet and other supplements.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
if part of what you're asking is quality, i don't know that there's a difference. maybe if you were buying a lower priced fortified food as opposed to a high quality higher priced supplement, there might be a difference there, but if you stick to brands you can trust, i think it's ok either way you go. just compare amounts of the more important vitamins and minerals that you feel you need to focus on, find out how much you should get daily, and compare how much is provided by one vitamin as opposed to a serving of soymilk or whatever. if you'd have to drink a quart of the stuff to equal one pill, it's not worth it.
 

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8.45 oz of EdenSoy Extra provides the following (percentages in parentheses are for two servings, 16.9 oz):<br><br><br><br>
Vitamin A: 30% (60%)<br><br>
Calcium: 20% (40%)<br><br>
Iron: 10% (20%)<br><br>
Vitamin D: 10% (20%)<br><br>
Vitamin E: 25% (50%)<br><br>
Thiamin (B1): 10% (20%)<br><br>
Riboflavin (B2): 4% (8%)<br><br>
Niacin (B3): 4% (8%)<br><br>
Pantothenic Acid (B5): 6% (12%)<br><br>
Pyridoxine Hyrocloride (B6): 8% (16%)<br><br>
Folate (B9): 10% (20%)<br><br>
Vitamin B12: 50% (100%)<br><br>
Biotin (vit H): 4% (8%)<br><br>
Phosphorus: 15% (30%)<br><br>
Magnesium: 15% (30%)<br><br>
Zinc: 6% (12%)<br><br><br><br>
Now compare the numbers in parentheses to those on your multivitamin. Most likely, you will notice that your multivitamin provides much greater percentages (probably 100%) of these vitamins/minerals.<br><br><br><br>
I am not a doctor, but taking a multivitamin while continuing to consume 16 oz of EdenSoy Extra will give you more than the recomended daily intake, especially of Vitamin A, Calcium, Vitamin E and Vitamin B12.<br><br><br><br>
From what I have read, B12 has no upper intake limit/toxicity level, but excesses of Vitamin A, Calcium and especially (in supplement form) Vitamin E can cause problems. The limits for these are about three times the recomended daily value, though, so exceeding them would be unlikely even if you took a multivitamin and 16 oz of EdenSoy Extra.
 

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ok. well i just went to the emergency room to get my prescription renewed (i don't have a family doctor in town yet and the walk in clinic is only open evenings) today, and while in the waiting room i ended up reading an article about B12 deficiency. it kinda scared me, so i've decided now that i'm going to go ahead and start taking those multi's every day until i can get in with a family doc to have my levels tested.<br><br><br><br>
the list of symptoms sounded too familiar to ignore <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
but what i also read was that without enough folic acid (i think it was folic acid anyway, correct me if i'm wrong) the body can't absorb the B12 properly and it can cause serious problems. very serious. and vise versa. so to take one, you need to take the other. or have levels of both tested to make sure it won't do you any harm to increase the amount of either in your diet or with supplements.<br><br><br><br>
the article suggested eating lots of green and leafy veggies, preferably raw, as well as whole grains.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
so anyway yes i think it's important not to overload your system with supplements, but do yourself a huge favour and see a doc, ask them to do a blood test to check for any and all deficiencies before you make any drastic changes. if you're deficient in only one thing it's easy to just buy a supplement for that one thing, but in the meantime taking one thing without a complimentary thing could do more harm than being deficient to begin with.<br><br><br><br>
uhh i'm not making sense anymore and it's giving me a headache. this stuff is so hard to comprehend sometimes. (also difficulties thinking clearly is a symptom of low B12 lol)
 

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the truth of the matter is, it's always best to get your vitamin and mineral requirements out of fresh, whole foods. not fortified foods or supplements.<br><br><br><br>
there is no difference between getting your vitamins or minerals out of fortified foods or supplements. they are equal.
 

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"the truth of the matter is, it's always best to get your vitamin and mineral requirements out of fresh, whole foods. not fortified foods or supplements."<br><br>
But from what i've read we *have* to take a supplement for<br><br>
B-12, b/c it comes from meat ..right? I'm so confused.<br><br>
Thanks for all your help understanding all this.
 

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B12 is available in non-animal form. Where do you think the B12 in fortified soymilk comes from? Someone like Soilman may be better at explaining all this. Currently, I'm too distracted to formulate a proper response.
 

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Ill be careful.<br><br><br><br>
Its assumed that all B12 is Vegan because its cheaper to make and possibly safer than b12 out of slaughter residue.<br><br><br><br>
B12 is a bacteria. Its commercially grown on yeast or something.<br><br><br><br>
One thing to watch is Vitamin D.<br><br><br><br>
Its my personal assumption that vitamin D is always the D-3 variety unless stated otherwise.<br><br>
D-3 can be made out of wool-fat or fish-oil. (D-3 is <b>always</b> animal derived)<br><br><br><br>
D2 is made in another way and is Vegan. The name for D2 is ergo-calciferol.
 
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