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We need to make a major motion picture that is a comedy-drama and features a vegan protagonist.

I'm trying to think of a story line and a dialogue ideas.

And one where animals are portrayed without resorting to use of trained animals -- without exploiting animals at all. I don't believe strict realism is a requirement. We can have people in animal suits portraying animals, both comicly and seriously.

In order to attract a large audience it can't be about vegetarianism or animal rights. It needs to be that veganism is just one of the protagonists characterizing features. We can have a few comic scenes which show the character being in a hurry to get somewhere, but being delayed by problems obtaining vegan food. For example a waiter bringing a "vegan" meal and the charactor finding obvious bits of animal flesh in it. Some dialogue for this scene, and we'll have one scene.

Flesh it out a bit: she is in a hurry to get where?
 

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Of course, the Golden Child, who had been abducted from Tibet, being the reincarnation of a sage, didn´t eat the blood -: and saved the world.
 

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sunnyk, I've never seen Scotland, PA. Where can I find it? Is it a movie? A television presentation?
 

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It's a feature-lenth film with Maura Tierny (sp?) and Christopher Walken (love him!). My friend got it at Blockbuster, I guess they have a "Sundance Section." Well, this one didn't meet the goal of having a wide audience, but it fits your criteria of portraying veg*nism in a positive, yet not overbearing, manner.

It's a retelling of Macbeth, in which a couple murders the owner of the burger-restaurant they work in ... in order to take it over themselves. Christopher Walken is the cop who investigates, and he's a vegetarian. It's not super-emphasized, there's just some funny scenes, like at the murdered guy's wake Walken offers them some veg food, and they say "What the heck is that?"

**WARNING. I'M ABOUT TO RUIN THE PLOT** (But it's still worth seeing even if you do read on.)

In the end the bad guys are caught (of couse), and Walken's character opens a veggie burger restaurant where the hamburger restaurant used to be.

The "blood" on Lady Macbeth's hands is represented by an unhealing grease burn from a fryer ... but I guess the makers kept the "blood" in in terms of hamburger-sellers versus veggieburger-sellers. Hey, I wonder who these guys are and if they've made any other movies...?

It's a great, strange little flick. Not mainstream at all. But if you like indie stuff it's definitely worth searching out!!!!
 

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As a filmmaker, I am very much interested in the idea of introducing positive veg*n, particularly vegan, characters into film, so bring 'em on. Seriously.

I have an action comedy right now that includes a vegan protagonist, but she is also a member of an "earth liberation" movement. Because of her "extremeness," and the fact that this is an action comedy, she goes pretty far sometimes (she's a real ass-kicker), and the male lead (one could assume he's omni) gives her a lot of crap. But they do end up having a love scene (sorry to spoil it, but maybe you'll forget in the five to ten years this will take to get to theaters near you).

I'm still working on finessing this piece so that the leads aren't what your average American would consider terrorists. It will be a difficult sell otherwise.

I'm eager to find more for indie stuff, which is what I do. I'm working on financing a low-budget feature in which my character, the lead, does own a regular restaurant, but it was important in this piece to have it be an old-fashioned style bar and grill. That said, he only eats vegan food on-screen, so that I don't have to pretend to eat meat! Plus, I hope to use fake meat in every scene. As producer of the film, it is going to be very difficult. I would be the boss, and it would be my job to feed the crew for three weeks of shooting. They would probably rebel if they couldn't choose their own food, so I may have trouble imposing a vegan diet, which means I would have to actually purchase animal products (besides film, which has animal byproduct in it, though I'm strongly leaning toward digital). My goal is to shoot in an area where there are non-vegan alternatives, to hire every person with the information up-front that this will be a vegan set, and let them know they're free to go "off-campus" for their lunch if they want to eat animal products. For the crew and cast that aren't in demand, this will probably be easy. For the crew and cast that are, they may have certain demands that will have to be met, and I will deal with them as they arise. Making movies can be a pain without being vegan, but I know I'll have a lot more challenges than most filmmakers going forward. Hopefully I can hire lots of veg*n actors as I become more successful.
 

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scotland, pa is such a GOOD movie.
 

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Epski, I've been thinking about ideas for plays for years, including screenplays, writing them sounds like a lot of fun, but I never complete any. As you can see, I've only come up with one scene for my vegan protagonist, and no dialogue yet. And I'm out of steam already.
 

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LOL, soilman. That's not promising. At least you'll have sympathy for the poor writers next time you go see a bad movie. Even bad movies are hard to write.
 

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Originally posted by epski My goal is to shoot in an area where there are non-vegan alternatives, to hire every person with the information up-front that this will be a vegan set, and let them know they're free to go "off-campus" for their lunch if they want to eat animal products. For the crew and cast that aren't in demand, this will probably be easy. For the crew and cast that are, they may have certain demands that will have to be met, and I will deal with them as they arise. Making movies can be a pain without being vegan, but I know I'll have a lot more challenges than most filmmakers going forward. Hopefully I can hire lots of veg*n actors as I become more successful.
What you need to do is get everyone from Veggieboards to audition for you, cast the leads from that and then use the rest as extras. That should solve your catering problem for you


could leave you with a slight 'talent' problem instead though if my acting's anything to go by
 

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Yup, Pixelle, that would work. Though you'd probably be better off having professional actors.

Now, if you needa good British bloke to star in a movie, look no further!!!
 

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I'm sick of reading books where the hunky, macho romantic interest finally manages to break through the weedy, veggie heroine's stubborness and get a steak down her throat.
I've read enough of those to last me a lifetime.

And the fluffy, ditzy 'veggie' girl who doesn't eat rabbits because they are 'cute', but is happy to dig into a ham sandwich? I could gleefully strangle her.

Whenever I write a scene where characters are eating, they're always eating vegan food, though I may not make it explicit that they're veggie. No bacon butties in my books.

I'm working on a sci-fi series of novels that revolve around the themes of 'respect for life' or 'How far do we extend the circle when we're dealing with 'do unto others. . .'?' It's a challenge because to make it work I'm going to have to dig deep and give my frustrations, anger and doubts to the protagonist as she realises how unjust the world is and how helpless she is to change things. I'll have to deal with her struggles to not hate those who still participate in animal cruelty when otherwise they are good people. Trying to figure out what she can do to help, without letting the cruelty tear her apart inside. Her doubts that what she does even matters. Her doubts that the others fighting the same fight are people she wants to associate with.

Basically all the things veggies go through
It's going to be hard, but I'm so fed up of veggies being misunderstood or mis-represented. It's my little way of redressing the balance. The only way I can do it without sounding preachy is to be absolutely honest and deal with the hardships and personal struggles as well as the feelings of joy and reward that go along with living to reduce the suffering of others.
 

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Any sci-fi movie I ever do, there will be no characters that eat meat. It will be a thing of the past.

As for using VBers as extras, that's a great idea!!! Leads, doubtful, though. Sorry.
 

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-Sneaking non-meat substitues to a steak lover would be great. sorta like "the cook, the theif..." only not canniballistic.

-A hard core chef (iron chef type of guy) who's vegan. "What, meat on my chopping block?! I'll Kill You!!" Goes running after "meat" guy swinging carrots.
 

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Originally posted by epski

Any sci-fi movie I ever do, there will be no characters that eat meat. It will be a thing of the past.

As for using VBers as extras, that's a great idea!!! Leads, doubtful, though. Sorry.
you won't even let us audition?
i guess what they say about showbusiness being inhabited by judgemental snobs is true.
 

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Hhhmmm...I think it would be easier to get our movie production company started if we began in the porn industry. Ya know, have some veg*n characters using vegan products in the scenes, like vegan "whipped cream"...
 
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