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<div class="quote-block">A Marietta, Ga., mom who was convicted of jaywalking after her 4-year-old son was run over and killed in a hit-and-run said on the Today Show that the worst part of going to jail would be the separation from her two remaining kids.<br><br>
Raquel Nelson was convicted of homicide by vehicle and reckless conduct by a jury and faces sentencing tomorrow. She can receive up to a three-year jail sentence, six times the stretch that Jerry Guy--who admitted to drinking before running over Nelson's son, A.J.--served.<br><br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mom-convicted-son-jaywalking-death-never-end-151356884.html" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...151356884.html</a></div>
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3/10ths of a mile to the nearest crosswalk isn't great in the walkability department.<br><br>
If I found the right apartment buildings, they are on a section of road that has over a half mile between crosswalks.<br><br>
The suburbs suck.
 

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People like Casey Anthony get a not guilty verdict for killing her child yet this woman has to do jail time. Unbelievable.
 

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What the f***! Seriously the drunk driver who actually murdered the child got what 6 months? ugh pisses me off!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Melanie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949492"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
People like Casey Anthony get a not guilty verdict for killing her child yet this woman has to do jail time. Unbelievable.</div>
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See, I don't understand why people keep comparing everything to the Casey Anthony trial. The evidence wasn't there, there was reasonable doubt. Just because one person likely got away with murder, doesn't mean others shouldn't be punished for breaking the law.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AlixJ18</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949494"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
What the f***! Seriously the drunk driver who actually murdered the child got what 6 months? ugh pisses me off!</div>
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THAT part is sickening.
 

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Wow, that reminds me of a hit I saw working one day many years ago. I was working at a pizza place in the not so good neighborhood where I lived and a mom was jaywalking her little kid at night across the street when he got hit by a truck. It was so horrible. They could have made the crosswalk but they decided not to. The child was not seen by the driver because he looked around 4 and tiny. I never heard the outcome of that but it still haunts me every now and then.
 

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It really raises questions about whether or not parents should face criminal charges for negligence, especially when the child dies. I don't think this case is cut and dry, I can see both sides. Her son would still be alive if she hadn't broken the law, but what does jail time accomplish? Should the sentence the driver gets affect the sentence the mother gets or are the 2 not connected? Both his Mother and the driver failed this little boy. The road she jaywalked across was very busy, she put her kids in great danger. Jaywalking is a huge problem in many cities, the law is there for a reason.
 

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Ya i'm not going to compare it to Casey Anthony people on that pages comments were doing that, and they have nothing to do with each other, and there was no evidence, but ya the biggest problem i have is that she could get a longer sentence than the person that killed him.
 

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I saw someone say that he wasn't drunk during it but had drank earlier in the day idk if it's true. Oh and another kid fell a bunch of stories i think out a window again and died, and that person isn't being charged, even though they left at least one window open more than 3 stories up, while not watching their kid.
 

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Watching the video, wtf, two prior cases of hit and run. Why did he have a stupid license to begin with? Oh and he taks pain meds and is blind in one eye.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SuicideBlonde</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949545"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Watching the video, wtf, two prior cases of hit and run. Why did he have a stupid license to begin with? Oh and he taks pain meds and is blind in one eye.</div>
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O god, i really wanna know what the hell happened here, does he have some sort of connections to people with a lot of power.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>danakscully64</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949495"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
See, I don't understand why people keep comparing everything to the Casey Anthony trial. The evidence wasn't there, there was reasonable doubt. Just because one person likely got away with murder, doesn't mean others shouldn't be punished for breaking the law.</div>
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I understand the verdict, and why it was given. If you go back to the Casey Anthony thread, you'll see that I made that exact point. Whether the evidence was there or not, we all "know" that she did it.<br><br>
This case was an accident, and the mother is facing 6 times the jail sentence that the drunk driver who ACTUALLY ran the kid over? Please.<br><br>
Casey Anthony was convicted of lying to the police and not killing her child? Then this mother should get convicted only for jaywalking and not for killing her child.<br><br>
Not just a blind comparison.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AlixJ18</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949540"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I saw someone say that he wasn't drunk during it but had drank earlier in the day idk if it's true. Oh and another kid fell a bunch of stories i think out a window again and died, and that person isn't being charged, even though they left at least one window open more than 3 stories up, while not watching their kid.</div>
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With this case, it's different because the woman broke the law and that resulted in the child dying. Leaving the windows open isn't illegal, so that's why those parents weren't charged.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Watching the video, wtf, two prior cases of hit and run. Why did he have a stupid license to begin with? Oh and he taks pain meds and is blind in one eye.</div>
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I know, seriously.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Melanie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2949555"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I understand the verdict, and why it was given. If you go back to the Casey Anthony thread, you'll see that I made that exact point. Whether the evidence was there or not, we all "know" that she did it.<br><br>
This case was an accident, and the mother is facing 6 times the jail sentence that the drunk driver who ACTUALLY ran the kid over? Please.<br><br>
Casey Anthony was convicted of lying to the police and not killing her child? Then this mother should get convicted only for jaywalking and not for killing her child.<br><br>
Not just a blind comparison.</div>
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What we don't know is whether or not Kaylee's death was an accident. The problem is they pursued the wrong charges against Casey. I think they could have gotten her on manslaughter and other charges. It was impossible to prove 1st degree murder. We also don't know if Casey was doing something illegal that caused the death of Kaylee. We have proof in this case.<br><br>
This was a little more than an accident because the mother chose to break the law and put herself and her children in danger of speeding cars. That's why she was convicted. We don't know that he was drunk for sure. And I asked earlier in the thread, should the drivers sentence affect the mother's sentence? Why wasn't he charged with manslaughter?<br><br>
So you're saying we should stop charging parents who kill their children?
 

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With this case, it's different because the woman broke the law and that resulted in the child dying. Leaving the windows open isn't illegal, so that's why those parents weren't charged.</div>
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I consider that negligence, which is illegal.
 

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Switch jail time and there you go. That would have been fair.<br><br><br>
Still how the **** did this ******* have a license.
 

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I consider that negligence, which is illegal.</div>
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By law, it might not be considered negligence though. You can't watch your children 100% of the time, maybe they just didn't think the child could get through the window (maybe there were screens on them, they were high up, they were in parts of the house the child never went, etc). Jaywalking in traffic really has no excuse. That's true negligence, putting your kids in front of speeding cars.
 
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