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I think the 'CONSUMER' Celesta Powell is a bunch of BS!<br><br><br><br>
Here is a person with the SAME name on the Penn State Agricultural page. Just so happens Penn State is in State College where the artilce was written!<br><br>
Find her name HERE <a href="http://agexted.cas.psu.edu/Graduates/Students.html" target="_blank">http://agexted.cas.psu.edu/Graduates/Students.html</a><br><br><br><br>
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

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FOUR gallons every week? That's four children = a gallon of milk a week per kid.<br><br><br><br>
Even if it turns out to be true, that's a helluva lot of milk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dizzy2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dizzy:">
 

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I grew up in a family with 4 kids, I think we did about 4 gallons a week to be honest. We each drank at least two big cups a day, plus the milk in our cereal. 4 kids can do a lot of damage, lol.<br><br><br><br>
Even with the increase in price in milk, its still way cheaper than soymilk. When soymilk goes on sale I buy pretty much every one in the store, lol.
 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I drank a gallon a week when I was a kid. Easy.<br><br><br><br>
I'm no longer a milk drinker so I don't have much else to contribute to this thread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/book2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":book:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>troub</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I hope dairy prices rise another 80% - maybe it will save some cows.</div>
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More than likely our government would just kick in with some subsidies.
 

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Casey said the amendment would provide about $125 million in aid to help dairy farmers deal with higher energy, feed and other production costs.<br></div>
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It's nice to know that the Dairy Industry is so rooted in our government that every person has to pay them, regardless if they consume milk or not.<br><br><br><br>
How about some subsidies to the hazelnut milk producers?<br><br>
I pay $10/gallon for my milk - $3.75 is nothing.
 

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thats a lot of milk. when i was a milk drinker though, i am preetty sure i drank atleast that. oh well, keep the prices going up and up.
 

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Celestia better stock up, because EVERYBODY knows there only two types of beverages in the world, cow's milk and soda.
 

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If you want to write to Senator Bob Casey and tell him what you think of his subsidies of the dairy industry (politely, of course), here's the link to contact him: <a href="http://casey.senate.gov/contact.cfm" target="_blank">http://casey.senate.gov/contact.cfm</a><br><br><br><br>
Be sure to contact your own Representative and Senators in Congress while you're at it, to let them know to oppose this.<br><br><br><br>
--Fromper<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
 

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At a .28 per gallon increase, even if she buys 4 gallons per week, that's not a big deal. If that's going to break the bank, she shouldn't have had 4 kids (she shouldn't have had 4 kids anyway, but that's beside the point).
 

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<div class="quote-block">"You can't look at cutting your kids back on milk," she said after loading several bottles of milk from Meyer Dairy store into her minivan recently. "What are you going to give them, soda?"</div>
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Gee, I don't know. Water, maybe? Juice? Soy milk? Rice milk?<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">But Phoebe Bitler, vice president of Pennsylvania Dairy Stakeholders, an industry group that includes farmers, producers and grocery stores, said the price of milk should not be so dependent on subsidies for farmers so consumers get an accurate gauge of costs.<br><br><br><br>
"We've made it so that the farmer has to produce it cheaper and cheaper all the time," said Bitler. "The real price needs to be paid for the product, rather than a subsidy price."</div>
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I think she hit the nail on the head. It's not really that large an increase, anyway. If you're buying 4 gallons a week, that's only $1.12 extra a week. It's not that big a difference. You could buy one or two less bags of chips (or some other kind of junk food) a month to make up the difference, if it was going to hurt your budget that badly, I guess.
 

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Great shill-sighting, barrylove!
 

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the main people I can see it hurting are the very poor.<br><br><br><br>
and between 4 kids, 4 gallons a week isn't much. 1 gallon=16 8oz cups. according to the ~*FOOD guide Pyramid*~ (which we all know is the holy word) Kids are supposed to get 3 8 oz servings a day, that would be 21 cups a week. Once you factor in yogurts and cheeses, that's on par with recommendations probably.<br><br><br><br>
I don't drink cow milk. So this doesn't really affect me.
 

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Cissy your statement clearly defines what is undoubtedly one the largest problems with spreading the word about veganism (and Im certainly not targeting you its just that your statement brought this to mind).<br><br><br><br>
Vegans are by nature compassionate people not only towards animals but usually even more so towards fellow humans. So often vegans will concede on many important points in an effort to appear compassionate. Points like (and I have certainly been guilty of all of these in the past)<br><br><br><br>
"If you have to hunt to survive thats better than buying factory farmed animals" No its really not.<br><br><br><br>
Things like when a vegan accidently purchases something that he/she later finds to have animal ingredients. So we give it to our non vegan friend to use cause 'hey why waste it right'. No, not only have you allowed it to be consumed you have just sent a clear and well defined message that you think that it is okay for it to be consumed.<br><br><br><br>
These are only a couple of examples (cuz its three in the morn and I cant think of more ,but there are more ,trust me), but the point is that what you say and the actions you make are very important in conveying your message and compromising any part in an effort to seem 'compassionate to all' really only undermines your whole work of universal compassion.<br><br><br><br>
So in conclusion the very poor are not hurt by an increase in milk price. Cows milk is formulated for baby cows ,not humans, baby or otherwise. The increase is good for the poor as now they may purchase something much healthier than steroid ,antibiotic ,BGH ridden cow puss to survive on. The rapid increase in childhood obesity and disease may even decline as a result in the increase in milk price and finally perhaps less cows will be forced into slavery and torture.
 
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