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Got this in my FS newsletter.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=17556" target="_blank">http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=17556</a>
 

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Agh! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> DUDE!<br><br><br><br>
Yet another reason that milk is eeeevil!
 

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Isn't this like... old news? Reeeeee-ally old news?</div>
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In a way, but this is a recent discovering about something they weren't sure of it the past. The story is from a few days ago - Farm Sanctuary had it in their new newsletter.<br><br><br><br>
"A mad cows milk may contain these prion proteins and the disease might be transmitted from the mad cow to humans who happen to drink its milk, according to a new study.<br><br><br><br>
It has been proved by earlier studies that body fluids such as blood may carry these infectious proteins. But it was not clear whether milk could carry prions, until the study.<br><br><br><br>
During the current study, Nicola Franscini and colleagues at Case Western University School of Medicine, detected prion protein (PrPC)-the precursor of prions (PrPSc)-in milk from humans, cows, sheep, and goats.<br><br><br><br>
They found prions to be heat-resistant and treatment of infected milk to very high temperature only partially diminished endogenous PrPC concentration.<br><br><br><br>
According to the United States Department of Agriculture, Prions endure all types of environment.<br><br><br><br>
The study declares that drinking the milk of a cow infected with mad cow disease may transmit the disease to the consumers although it is not clear, how serious the risk might be."<br><br><br><br><br><br>
They weren't sure whether these prions could be carried in the milk but now they see that they can - which could be risky for even vegetarians eat dairy but don't eat meat.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
This was the first time I read about it....Sorry, if you heard about it a while ago.
 

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Oh, no apologies, the more people that know, the better - but there have been several previous studies that show basically the same thing.<br><br>
Maybe the information in this study is presented differently or more convincingly or more scientifically to the general public than previous ones had been, I really don't know; but as long as people continue to get the message they can keep doing all the studies and reports that they want.
 

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I had not heard of this before now.<br><br><br><br>
One thing I found a bit confusing about the story is that it said they found prion proteins--believed to be the precursors of prions--in the milk, but not prions themselves. It is unclear to me how prion proteins become prions, and therefore how much risk there is from ingesting the precursor proteins.
 

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I had not heard of this before now.<br><br><br><br>
One thing I found a bit confusing about the story is that it said they found prion proteins--believed to be the precursors of prions--in the milk, but not prions themselves. It is unclear to me how prion proteins become prions, and therefore how much risk there is from ingesting the precursor proteins.</div>
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I was thinking the same thing. and i think they said most of the prion proteins get destroyed by heat, via pasturization ........<br><br>
i am skeptical of this and would have to read the entire study in its entirety.<br><br>
im not convinced you can get mad cow from drinking milk.
 

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Yep. Really old news, at least on this side of the pond, but scientific results are usually tentative.<br><br><br><br>
There only seem to be a handful of studies, judging by how few I found on pubmed. Here's the original <a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1762385" target="_blank">paper</a> (free full text). Here's <a href="http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/full/87/8/2433" target="_blank">another one</a> published in August (They do address animal tests, so skip them if you're sensitive about that kind of thing). I don't have time to go through them in detail right now, but from skimming them, I don't think anyone's managed to establish that other animals can be infected with milk.
 

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I Was told this at the time when bse first came out? how vegetarians were getting it too but only i a particular part of england.<br><br>
could be wrong, i was 7 at the time!!
 

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I Was told this at the time when bse first came out? how vegetarians were getting it too but only i a particular part of england.<br><br>
could be wrong, i was 7 at the time!!</div>
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No, that's exactly what I thought I'd heard too.<br><br>
It was a while back, to be sure, but my parents (who are vegetarians for their health) immediately stopped using cows milk because it really freaked them out.
 

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It's unfortuante that LudwigB is no longer here. He got his PhD studying prions at this same university, probably with these same people. If anyone wants to read some of his opinions on mad cow or prions, you can do an advanced search for posts by him with those keywords. Fact remains (per one of his old posts) that only a super tiny fraction of people who consume one of these prions may end up with vCJD. A much larger proportion will end up with heart disease and other problems from too much saturated fat. If stroke and heart attack don't deter people, vCJD probably won't either.
 
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