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I'm hoping someone here can relate and help me out. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
I'm trying extremely hard to become a vegetarian, but I love meat so much! So, was it really hard for you to give up meat? What do you eat in substitute of meats to calm your cravings? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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have you tried fake meats? some are very much like meat.<br><br><br><br>
off hand:<br><br>
morningstar riblets, boca burgers and crumbles, Yves breakfast links, sandwich slices, chick'n patties and nuggets, gimmie lean sausage. light life has some things as well.<br><br><br><br>
tofu that has been froze before using has a chicken like texture.
 

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I can't exactly relate, but I hope I can help. It was very easy for me to give up meat, and I'd eaten it for nearly 30 years of my life when I made the decision to stop over night. I literally have not had meat in over 13 months. It was as simple as learning the facts.<br><br><br><br>
Have you read any of the sites describing how modern cattled are raised and slaughtered? Start by checking all that out, and then keep that in mind the next time you contemplate eating meat.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/slaughter/" target="_blank">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...eat/slaughter/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/slaughter/slaughterhouse.html" target="_blank">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...hterhouse.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/industrial/" target="_blank">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...at/industrial/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarming.com/" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.factoryfarm.org/" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarm.org/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.graphicwitness.org/coe/factory.htm" target="_blank">http://www.graphicwitness.org/coe/factory.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.meat.org/animals.htm" target="_blank">http://www.meat.org/animals.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/" target="_blank">http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.hsus.org/ace/15755" target="_blank">http://www.hsus.org/ace/15755</a><br><br><a href="http://www.mercyforanimals.org/poultry.asp" target="_blank">http://www.mercyforanimals.org/poultry.asp</a><br><br><a href="http://www.earthsave.org/news/factfarm.htm" target="_blank">http://www.earthsave.org/news/factfarm.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nrdc.org/water/pollution/cesspools/cessinx.asp" target="_blank">http://www.nrdc.org/water/pollution/...ls/cessinx.asp</a><br><br><br><br>
Also, read the following books ASAP (check them out from a library, if need be):<br><br><br><br>
Jeremy Rifkin: "Beyond Beef"<br><br>
Howard Lyman: "Mad Cowboy"<br><br>
Eric Schlosser: "Fast Food Nation"<br><br><br><br>
For cravings, I suggest any other healthy food, especially any food that couldn't be considered high in junk calories, like refined sugars. Those are only a temporary relief from cravings anyway.
 

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Some people find it helpful to "wean" themselves off meat.<br><br><br><br>
I know of two basic approaches to this. One is to eliminate meat by type...give up beef one week, then the next week, avoid beef and pork, then beef, pork, and chicken, etc, until you've eliminated all of it.<br><br><br><br>
Or, you can just gradually phase it out. Ordering pizza? Try leaving off the pepperoni a couple of times. Making tacos? Try using tvp or ground soy crumbles. Eating at a restaurant? Try getting a veg alternative. Don't put any pressure on yourself, and just try to make a game of it...see how often you can find a veg alternative. Eventually, you'll get so used to looking for veg alternatives that it becomes very natural, and you'll enjoy the new foods you discover.<br><br><br><br>
The second method is how I did it. I tried giving up meat "cold tofu" first, and I fell off the wagon within a week. The second time, I phased it out gradually, over a two month period. I rewarded myself in small ways for the vegetarian meals I ate, and by the end of the two month period, I was so used to eating vegetarian that I didn't even miss the meat!<br><br><br><br>
I don't crave it at all now, and I haven't had a single bite of it since last year. ^_^<br><br><br><br>
Now if I can just conquer the cheese craving! Onward! ^___^<br><br><br><br>
Good luck to you!
 

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Wow - great list of links Epski!!<br><br><br><br>
Beautiful Fire: I can relate. I am not nauseated at the thought of eating meat. What keeps me Veg is focusing on where the meat in that sterile grocery store packaging comes from. Living, breathing, feeling creatures whose lives were cut short so that someone might eat their preferred grub. Cruelty or no cruely involved - just that is enough to keep me Veg.<br><br><br><br>
I've been working with my daughter (the Anti-Vegan) to try to increase her sensitivity as she can't seem to see beyond the end product (hamburger patty, plastic wrapped steak, etc.). This summer we're going to visit a farm where she can spend time with the animals (here in Japan it's not all that easy to arrange this type of thing). Someday I'm going to find the right trigger that will open up her heart (I just don't want to ruin our relationship as a result - to I tip-toe my way through it).<br><br><br><br>
I've found that TVP or TSP chunks in stews is nice and meaty if seasoned correctly. Seitan can be tasty. Boca Bugers are awesome. I enjoy Tempeh, but it really doesn't remind me of meat (it's more of a meat alternative).<br><br><br><br>
Basically though - visit Epski's links. If you can take it in - your heart might over-rule your taste buds (mine did) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Vegan: The New Ethics of Eating is another good book that's an easy read.<br><br><br><br>
Edit to Add another book I thought was motivational:<br><br>
Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy<br><br>
By: Matthew Scully
 

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It's amazing what you can come up with in 3 minutes on Google. I have a lot of bookmarks, too, but it's easier to copy and paste from Google pages.<br><br><br><br>
Robbins' <b>The Food Revolution</b> is also essential reading. I was going off the top of my head earlier.<br><br><br><br>
The Scully book is interesting, but I didn't find it as compelling, personally. A good read nonetheless.
 

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(google is great, I call it "googling" - and she googled aaaall night long)<br><br><br><br>
I'm with ceryna here. Try to take it step by step. I never had problems giving up meat, but I had problems giving up dairy and what I did was the following: First I tried to put in some non-dairy subsitutes like soymilk, just for fun, like adding without subtracting anything at all. Then I decided (months later?) that I would not consume any "pure" dairy, meaning no glass of milk, no slice of cheese, no cup of yogurt, but if it was an ingredient I would have it (you could say if it's on pizza it's fine, if it's a plain steak, it doesn't work). Then I cut down on all the products that were obvious to contain dairy products, but I still allowed myself to have things like toast with whey in it (you could still have broth, or bacon bits in things). Then after getting used to that (two months?) I finally decided to start studying all the nutrition labels, and I was on my way <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I never noticed I was giving up anything, except that I had to pay lots of attention to ingredients lists and sometimes I would really like the smell of melted cheese. But you get over that with the methods all the other's gave you... just imagine the poor little thing when it was still alive, pleading for its life!!<br><br><br><br>
Good luck, I know you can do it!
 

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I loved the taste of meat (I still like the smell of it cooking <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> )so I CAN relate...but I am coming up on 14 years as a vegetarian. (4 as a vegan)<br><br><br><br>
and as my vegetarian cooking improves, it gets easier and easier...<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I found it hard to give up meat and I asked the same question as you did. For me, giving up meat began with health issues. I have a liver problem and I have allergies to beef. Giving up beef wasn't as hard as giving up the chicken, as chicken never made me feel sick. Anyway...just take it one day at a time. That's what I did. In my case, I would have relapses...and each time I did, I just picked myself up and kept going. At one point, I became very depressed about my relapse...but the people on this site kept encouraging me, so I didn't give up. Not that long ago, I broke down and ate a hamburger and you know what...for the first time in years, I hated the taste. I shocked myself! Next...I hope to actually stop liking the taste of chicken, but I tell myself that that, too, will come. My problem was giving up chicken salad...people on this site helped me realize that chicken salad was like a comfort food. So, with much effort, I've managed to let it go. I have, however, discovered that it's more the seasoning that I miss than it is the actual chicken. So...I make myself potato salad with similar seasoning, and so far, I've been happy.<br><br><br><br>
Give yourself time and do the best you can. The fact that you are concerned shows you are making the right choice and are headed in the right direction. It really will get easier.....
 

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I think you may want to try experimenting with different cuisines as well.<br><br>
There are tons of fantastic cookbooks-I personally love-How It all Vegan, Garden of Vegan, Planet Vegan, Vegan Vittles etc.. (if you want more ideas I have lots) they really make eating vegetarian/vegan enjoyable! They will introduce you to flavours that you may never have tried. And as you are experimenting with new things and cuisine from parts of the world that consume very little meat you may not realize that you are missing anything at all. Its definately worth a try. The recipes in these books are really satisfying and as I know you are trying to watch the food that you are eating for health reasons-they give you lots of alternatives for reducing the fat that you consume. And have you tried portabello mushrooms-(my name is a combination of this and bella-because I like to think I'm beautiful) they make an awesome substitute for steak-you marinate them and grill or saute them and they are absolutely wonderful!
 

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Hi Beautiful Fire!<br><br><br><br>
I am a BIG meat lover. My husband brought in some BBQ last night, and even though I HATE BBQ, it just smelled SO good.<br><br><br><br>
However, with that being said, this is a suggestion for you:<br><br><br><br>
1) watch the online video "Meet Your Meat". You can see it on the PETA website.<br><br>
2)decide to abstain from being part of the problem anymore. If meat is tempting, just watch the video again (also - visit <a href="http://veganoutreach.com" target="_blank">http://veganoutreach.com</a> and read the articles)<br><br>
3)give up all animal products immediately. All of them - meat, eggs, dairy.<br><br><br><br>
The reason that I recommend this is from experience. I have tried to go Veg*n a few times before, but my meat cravings overwhelmend me. Also, I GOT FAT.<br><br><br><br>
What I have come to realize, for myself anyway, is that if I don't eat meat, but I DO eat dairy or eggs, my cravings for meat are MUCH worse. When I gave it all up, I have almost never craved meat very much. Sometimes the smell gets me salivating, but then I recall the video, and it dashes those thoughts right out of my head. Additionally, the moment that I gave up animal products, I started not having sugar cravings anymore! I have always had a HUGE sweet tooth. No more. It has only been about 2 months, and I find so many thing WAY too sweet now.<br><br><br><br>
My mother, who ate macro-biotic for quite a while, said that this craving for meat and cheese, and then for sugar is because the body is always striving to be "neutral" and meat and dairy are on one end of the extremes, while sugar is on the other end of the extremes, therefore, the more you eat of one, the more you crave of the other. I didn't quite get the terminology, but I have found it to be true.<br><br><br><br>
So, my advise is to give up everything at one time, and to visually see some images that keep your motivation in the forfront. Good Luck!
 

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WOW! I am so thankful for all the wonderful responses! Thanks so much you guys! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
I will definetly keep ALL of your tips in mind! I think weening myself off of meats might help, but if I keep eating some types of meat, my cravings will become stronger. So I think I am going to go with EquiPro's advice. In giving up meat all at once. I think it would be harder at first, but better for me in the long run. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
I don't have plans on becoming a vegan anytime soon, because I honestly don't find anything morally wrong with it, and altho it's fattening, I need some kind of comfort! LOL!<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, this is my first day meat-free, and it's going excellent! I barely eat anything during the day, so that's a big advantage. I don't eat breakfast or lunch, and when I do eat, it's dinner and a few snacks in the afternoon and evening. Tonight I am going to the mall to shop for a birthday present, and I've always loved the Fruit & Salad Company, and now I can feel better about getting a salad there! Just no more bacon bits <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> And no corn chowder with bits of ham <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> But I'm very determined to overcome this! And I'll do whatever it takes! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
I am so greatful for all of your responses, and thank you again! Your support is making this so much easier for me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Well I'm on a mission to lose weight. I'm very overweight for my age, and exercise isn't really an option for me. I eat for emotional reasons, and I've realized that I need to not let food control me. So I only eat when I'm hungry. And even if I'm hungry during the day, I'm usually too busy with class or hobbies to worry about it. The hunger eventually passes, and I'm fine. I'm hoping that vegetarianism helps me disipline myself even more.
 

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Skipping breakfast and/or lunch is not really a good idea. Your body needs a steady supply of fuel. Even if you aren't hungry - you should eat something small at regular intervals. This is true especially since you're trying to lose weight - you can put your body on the defense if it thinks food is scarce (so it will conserve calories - you don't want that).<br><br><br><br>
My suggestion would be to eat MORE often. Small portions of healthy fiber rich foods (fresh fruit, whole grains, vegetables, etc.)<br><br>
I eat about six times a day (at approx. 3 hour intervals with three of the "meals" very light snacks either fresh veggies or some fruit) - this keeps me fueled and prevents me from over-eating at the main meals.<br><br><br><br>
Don't want to scare you but try not to discipline yourself too much - you could find yourself on the road to an eating disorder.
 

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Don't worry, I'm not going to have a eating disorder. I'm far too addicted too food, and far too in need of it. It may seem like I don't eat a lot, but I eat tons, I'm really fine. Thanks for your concern tho. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I higly recommend the book "Diet For a New America", by John Robbins. It should be mandatory reading for every person alive. If you still crave meat (or eggs or dairy) after reading this book, I will be surprised. This book is a real eye-opener. I just read it recently, and though I've been vegan for a year and a half, it really reinforced my beliefs. This book was published in the late 80s, but the information in it is still relevant today, if not more so.<br><br><br><br>
Also, read "Fast Food Nation" by Eric Schlosser. While not a book about veg*nism, per se, it is an expose of the fast food industry. I doubt you'll ever want to eat fast food again, for many reasons, after reading this book.<br><br><br><br>
And yes, weaning yourself off meat helps. I started by giving up chicken and red meat. Then after a month or so I gave up fish. Then a month later I gave up eggs and dairy. I also never cooked before I was a vegan, but now I cook all the time and I really enjoy it. Experiment with new recipes that are vegan. You'll be surprised at how good they taste and how fun it is!<br><br><br><br>
Good luck!!
 

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Also, beautiful fire, my boyfriend lost 35 pounds this past year since he went vegan. He went vegan overnight (mainly b/c he wanted to compete with me, ha ha). But, he's still vegan, and feels so much better. He stays a vegan for health reasons and for spiritual reasons (yes, I've read him lots of "evil-meat" books and articles!) I didn't need to lose weight, so my weight has stayed the same, but if you DO need to lose weight, you are almost guaranteed to lose weight on a vegan diet. I do NOT recommend a vegan diet just for weight loss reasons, but if that motivator helps you go veg*n then that's a good thing in my book, because meat, etc. is SO bad for you in so many ways! Once you become veg*n you will discover so many other reasons to STAY veg*n - moral reasons, spiritual reasons, environmental reasons, etc., etc.<br><br><br><br>
If you can find a vegetarian or vegan restaurant in your area, I highly recommend going there! You will discover how wonderful food can taste, how BETTER it tastes, without animal ingredients. That will psyche you up to try your own recipes at home.<br><br><br><br>
Never expect meat substitutes to taste like meat, though. You will be sure to be disappointed then. Just enjoy your soy or veggie burger for what it is - a soy or veggie burger! Once you have not eaten meat or other animal foods for a while, your taste buds will adapt, and the richness of these foods will actually be a complete turn-off. You WILL lose the craving eventually!!<br><br><br><br>
Remember, being a vegetarian or a vegan is a lifestyle. not a weight loss diet plan. Plan to LIVE this way, and the rest will follow! You truly can learn to have an appreciation for food and have a better relationship with food this way. You will be nourishing your body, instead of abusing it. Make it fun! There are SO MANY more things to eat out there other than meats, fish, and other animal foods.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I've always loved the Fruit & Salad Company, and now I can feel better about getting a salad there! Just no more bacon bits<br><br><br><br>
No need to give them up, im sure you can find Bacos (sp?) at your local grocery store. They taste very similar to the real thing, but theyre completely vegetarian. Just stash some in a lil baggy in your purse when you go out for salad. Im sure they have much less fat and fewer calories than the real pork bum <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/moonpie.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":moonpie:"> ha.
 

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HappyDaisy,<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps I'm weird, but Fast Food Nation didn't turn me off from fast food at all. In fact, I'm the type of person the concept was created for. When I was working, I lived at fast food joints. Ironically, I weighted less then I do now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Diet for a New America - I stopped reading it part ways through as it was, well, for America. As I don't eat American meat, it really didn't apply to my life (in my opinion).<br><br><br><br>
But I've always known what was in my food before I put it into my mouth.<br><br><br><br>
Eva-bo-beva,<br><br><br><br>
There is a brans locally called Bacco's. Maybe that's the one you're thinking of? They taste like Star Trek ration packs; I love it! Very "spacey" food.
 
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