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I have this group of friends that I study with. Due to semester breaks and various internships we had to do I haven't seen them for about a year and I'm somewhat stressed about the thought of meeting all of them together again, because they have a habit of glorifying meat that bothered me even when I was an omni, mainly because they are really childish about that.<br><br>
If they get to the topic of meat, they will endlessly rave on about how delicious it is, who eats the most, and how awesome it is in general.. yadda yadda.<br><br>
They make cards for each other with drawings of meat, they build meat mobile decorations, and so forth.<br><br>
So the thing is now that I'm a vegan I'm not sure what I should do when I am going to hang out with them again. I don't want to be the miserable vegan party pooper, but I really can't stand their ignorance anymore.<br><br>
Just wondering... what would you guys do? Would you put up with this? Would you say something?
 

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Either learn to ignore them, change the subject, or change your friends. They sound a bit....strange, anyway. I've known/know plenty of meat eaters, but never ones who constantly talk about it (only if they are trying to make me feel like I'm missing out on something by not eating it, which never works).
 

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I would talk to a few of them individually and explain that you're vegan now and you're offended by gratuitous meat talk and meat jokes.<br><br>
And then get really good at changing the subject and/or re-focussing the group on the main study topic.<br><br>
Meanwhile, try to make friends with more vegetarians and vegans so you have some respite from the meat-mongers.
 

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Funny thing is, I "came out" as a vegan - so to speak - to the one who is acting the most immature about the whole meat stuff, and she said: "I don't eat much meat, I just pretend in public."<br>
That totally astounded me. Not so much the fact that she doesn't eat much meat (but what does that mean, anyway) but that she didn't have the guts to stay true to her "values".<br><br>
It's sad to say but I fear they will talk **** behind my back like "she's trying to force her beliefs on us" to try and turn things around... god, I feel like I am in highschool all over again. :s<br><br>
But this may very well be the last straw of this so-called friendship because they behaved more like frenemies in the past.
 

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I think you need to ditch these people.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Jinkies</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2998996"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'd find new people to study with.</div>
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They are heavily influenced by a graphic designer named McBess.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l73/carpetsounds/mcbess.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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I agree about finding new friends. Its quite bizarre that they talk about meat ALL the time like that. Meat mobiles...? My friends love meat, but they don't rave about it, because there are more interesting things to talk about. It's like, sure good food is something people like to chat about, but really, food is just food. You put it in your mouth, chew and swallow, and it sustains you, but it doesn't get much more exciting than that, to be frank.
 

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I would just "come out" to the group so to speak about how you are now a vegan and no longer eat meat. Sometimes that will deter people from discussing meat as much in front of you. If they don't get the hint and still continue to talk about it constantly you could maybe in a joking way remind them that you are a vegan and that talk is no longer for you. I say in a joking way because if you are more light hearted about approaching the topic then they may not see it as forcing your beliefs on them and that you can still have a sense of humor. If they still continue, or if they discuss it even more because they know it bothers you, then just ditch them and move on. If they are true friends then they will respect your beliefs. If they have already acted like frenimies in the past then I wouldn't be too upset about losing them as friends anyway imo! Situations like that are never easy, but if you stay mature about it and true to your beliefs then you can walk away knowing that you were the bigger man and stayed true to your beliefs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'd either find new people to study with, or change the subject. "So, what movies have you seen lately? What books have you read? Did you travel anywhere at all this summer?"
 

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Thank you guys for the advice! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I will really try to focus on other subjects when/if I hang this group of people again.<br><br>
Also, I found an article covering my exact problem so if anyone else is interested, there you go:<br><a href="http://theveganomaly.com/2011/06/30/eating-animals-isnt-edgy-my-harangue-against-non-vegan-hipsters/" target="_blank">http://theveganomaly.com/2011/06/30/...egan-hipsters/</a>
 

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I have this group of friends that I study with. Due to semester breaks and various internships we had to do I haven't seen them for about a year and I'm somewhat stressed about the thought of meeting all of them together again, because they have a habit of glorifying meat that bothered me even when I was an omni, mainly because they are really childish about that.<br><br>
If they get to the topic of meat, they will endlessly rave on about how delicious it is, who eats the most, and how awesome it is in general.. yadda yadda.<br><br>
They make cards for each other with drawings of meat, they build meat mobile decorations, and so forth.<br><br>
So the thing is now that I'm a vegan I'm not sure what I should do when I am going to hang out with them again. I don't want to be the miserable vegan party pooper, but I really can't stand their ignorance anymore.<br><br>
Just wondering... what would you guys do? Would you put up with this? Would you say something?</div>
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First of all, your friends sound like those people on Epic Meal Time! Just thought I'd throw that out there.<br>
Second, I have some "meat-glorifying" friends as well. I either just ignore them or make a smartass remark. E.g.: "So, how's that cow/bird/fish/pig you like chowing down so much?"
 

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I feel your pain. Thats why I let my friends/associates know I am veggie and out of respect they don't talk about meat around me. But to talk about meat all the time is uncalled for. My dad would do this and it urked the sh*t outta me.
 

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I watched Epic Meal Time and it is indeed quite similar to what they talk about..<br><br>
pinkwolf - I'm sorry to hear your dad was acting like that as well. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Sorry. That's a hard spot to be in.<br><br>
Personally, if these were friendships that I valued, I'd talk to them first and ask them to lay off the meat jokes because I find them upsetting. If they don't listen or make fun of you, that's when you ditch them.<br><br>
I've had a lot of both good friends and bad friends in my life, and the difference between them is ALWAYS this: the good ones give a sh*t about your feelings, and the bad ones don't. Both are capable of hurting you, but the good ones are sorry when they do and always stop the hurtful behavior. The bad ones either don't care, say they care but don't act like it, or blame YOU for the things they've done to hurt you - you deserved it, you're too sensitive, etc.<br><br>
Epic Meal Time is disgusting, btw <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Thank you blackbird. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> He has calmed down a great deal now. I mean he still makes his jokes here and there but have developed tougher skin over the years so it just bounces off me.
 
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