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please note today Tuesday 6th of Feb, I Changed TITLE of Thread... OLD TITLE:<br><br>
FIREFOX peeps~ congratulate me!! (Yes Sir.. another congratulation me thread!)<br><br><br><br>
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>> <b>ME NEW TO FIREFOX, DLed it, DISCUSS WITH ME (check out my P-of-Views)</b><br><br><br><br>
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=66926" target="_blank">Someone congratulate me!!</a>.....hehehe.......so kinda in a similar vein as Lucine did her self congratulation, I just wanted to announce, I am no longer an "internet explorer" toothless sucker (although I like most people will keep IE on standby).... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cool3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cool:"><br><br>
I do however now have my new FIREFOX version 2 (wotever/latest) browser as my default browser <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hamster.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hamster:">(unless it gives me problems)<br><br><br><br>
I know I am an a$$hole for not downloading firefox yonks ago, but today I finally did already, <i><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';">and just basicly I wanted my own thread for announcing it to others so I can share with you all the experience of your world now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> Soooo this thread now is for that now rather than congratulation... DISCUSS AWAY WITH ME!</span></i>
 

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Question one, about conflict.... <i>I won't pester too much anybody, as I'm doing okay by myself setting up stuff to customize etc</i>, <b>but now about the possible issue of conflict of browsers</b> >> <b>Q:</b> does that ever occur between IE and FF if you have them running at the same time ever ?<br><br><br><br>
I seem to be okay running both at once, don't know if thats the most common experience to have nothing bad to report <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"> but all positive so far.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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There's always the potential conflict that IE will eat up all your memory so that there's nothing left for Firefox... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Seriously, I don't really know since I almost never use IE anymore.<br><br><br><br>
ETA: Oh yeah: Congratulations!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Indian Summer</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
There's always the potential conflict that IE will eat up all your memory so that there's nothing left for Firefox... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Seriously, I don't really know since I almost never use IE anymore.<br><br><br><br>
ETA: Oh yeah: Congratulations!</div>
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Just the opposite. Firefox is a terrible memory hog and often won't release memory even after it's closed. You have to reboot to get it back.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak" target="_blank">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak</a>
 

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Hooray for you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dancingbanana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":nana:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:">
 

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Of course whist I AM STILL "HURRAY" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> about it (honestly)... I will certainly in dual consideration take into account anything extra anyone wants to add about whats good for a newbie to know (or not so good <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">) Fire away, LOL!!!!!<br><br><br><br>
Throw in some good stuffs though too, there's no way I can possibly believe the bad rules over good with FF.<br><br>
sooo GOOD STUFF....plugins or whateverlike dat anyone cares to recommend, speak up ya'll vent your recommendations. (although I think I know at least *where* to get stuff like that <b><i>as a start</i></b>, FREE DOWNLOADS etc, most all thanks to some FF links that welcomed me to their browser reception).<br><br><br><br>
So anyway if Red or anyone else wants to air any point, small or major and things "for and against" (good/bad) then sure whatever that..... but I still think there's plenty more plus points than anything bad, even if a memory issue AND ANYWAY>> I NOTED SOMETHING ALREADY THAT IS A FOOTPRINT PROJECT, SO ITS NOT LIKE FIREFOX IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ISSUES LIKE THAT..... Anyways, feel free to comment anyone.... I'll add the links I'm refering to in a bit <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Now that you freed yourself one piece of MS software it is time to free yourself from the rest <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Red</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Just the opposite. Firefox is a terrible memory hog and often won't release memory even after it's closed. You have to reboot to get it back.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak" target="_blank">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak</a></div>
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1. I was joking. (Hence the smiley and the next sentence starting with "seriously...".)<br><br>
2. The joke was about running two different browsers simultaneously. Obviously, they will be competing for resources, so running just one browser at a time makes more sense.<br><br>
3. On closer examination, IE has <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ietechcol/dnwebgen/ie_leak_patterns.asp" target="_blank">memory leak issues too</a>.
 

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Just the opposite. Firefox is a terrible memory hog and often won't release memory even after it's closed. You have to reboot to get it back.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak" target="_blank">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Memory_Leak</a></div>
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Memory leaks are bad and is the fault of the program. However, if you fully close a program and it still doesn't release memory then this is the fault of the operating system. An operating system should keep track of memory used by processes and when those processes are killed, the allocated memory should be freed.
 

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sooo GOOD STUFF....plugins or whateverlike dat anyone cares to recommend, speak up ya'll vent your recommendations. (although I think I know at least *where* to get stuff like that <b><i>as a start</i></b>, FREE DOWNLOADS etc, most all thanks to some FF links that welcomed me to their browser reception).</div>
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I like the <a href="http://toolbar.google.com" target="_blank">google toolbar</a>. Not so much that it only uses the Google search engine, but the functionality is really, really neat.<br><br><br><br>
If you search for a several keywords, the words will become buttons on the google bar. When you arrive at the page of your choice, you can search for the words within the page simply by pushing one of the "word" buttons that was created in the google bar. This is much more efficient than having to go Ctrl-F and then type in the same keyword again that you already typed at <a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">www.google.com</a> when you initiated the search.<br><br><br><br>
(I wish there was a toolbar with similar functionality that could be configured to use any search engine, though.)
 

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I like the <a href="http://toolbar.google.com" target="_blank">google toolbar</a>. Not so much that it only uses the Google search engine, but the functionality is really, really neat.</div>
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Indian Summer, this might be what you were wishing for, and it maybe sizing things up too much but at least its a firefox add on and not an IE one....<br><br><br><br>
so what do you think? .. how near to your dream come true is this prog? (note: I don't have this yet, I am still sizing it up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> many things in fact! -- as a new user weighing things up)<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">" <span style="font-size:small;">Groowe Search Toolbar</span><br><br><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?app=firefox&perpage=10&left=20" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/search.ph...age=10&left=20</a><br><br><br><br>
GST bundles toolbar functions for many search engines, shopping sites, download sites, including Google toolbar, Yahoo, Amazon, EBay, Ask, Msn, Download.com, Wikipedia, Digg, del.icio.us and others.<br><br><br><br>
The entire toolbar reconfigures when you select a different site and it includes many advanced features found in each engine or site. You can also easily repeat your search on all sites included in toolbar.<br><br><br><br>
Groowe plugins can be downloaded for many other sites like YouTUBE, IMDb, Technorati, Exalead, Clusty, Torrent sites,<br><br>
dictionaries, etc. Groowe plugins are small XML files that define new Groowe toolbar so anyone can make Groowe addition. "</div>
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<br><br><br><br><br><b>OR TRY THIS <i>MAYBE</i>::<br><br><span style="font-size:small;">Add to Search Bar 1.5 by Malte Kraus</span></b><br><br><br><br>
Make any pages' search functionality available in the Search Bar (or "search box")<br><br><br><br>
Just make a right click in a search field and choose "Add to Search Bar..."<br><br><br><br>
NOW: Screencast available! If you don't know what to do after installing the extension, have a look at here: <a href="http://maltekraus.de/Firefox/search-tools/addtosearchbar-screencast.html" target="_blank">http://maltekraus.de/Firefox/search-...creencast.html</a>
 

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However, if you fully close a program and it still doesn't release memory then this is the fault of the operating system. An operating system should keep track of memory used by processes and when those processes are killed, the allocated memory should be freed.</div>
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Yeah, that's the problem. FF doesn't always fully close. You either have to go into the task manager and kill it, or reboot. A well documented bug in FF, not the OS.
 

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^^^^Yeah, come to think of it, you both (Red and Dufstuf), I've been clicking on the redX to close a FF window like you would close any browser window, but it doesn't always kill the window... Strange.
 

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Something else to mention about not disimilar to my above short post is how to stop the opposite from happening, because everytime I reconnect my internet when it times out I get FireFox thinking it has to open a new window for me.. and I don't want it, so I guess I can find an option to stop in preferences huh?
 

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^^^^Yeah, come to think of it, you both (Red and Dufstuf), I've been clicking on the redX to close a FF window like you would close any browser window, but it doesn't always kill the window... Strange.</div>
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<br><i><br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Incidently:</span><br><br>
I'm still getting used to all my FF windows being enclosed in one FF "host window" (in my case when I go about shutting down some, you can see on far left, last of all if you will, a window named "untitled" and what that is still an operable enclosed window and which I can shut down or use, like its a blank name window basicly, but anyways "untitled" and is on the far left of the host window)...</i><br><br><b><br><br>
SO ANYWAY MY MAIN POINT WAS further to MAIN comment I made,</b> what the answer seems to be is to close (lol) all the enclosed windows first within the host window (as I call it), and THEN, shut down the host window afterward ==NOT HARD.... Just a bit of a sod <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> (**AND be sure everyone to have your preferences set to WARN IF I CLOSE MULTIPLE WINDOWS TOO!!**)<br><br><br><br>
............ FFS!!!, lol, but at least its not hard to do. Just not so convenient (OR IN OTHER WORDS. <i>depending whether you are happy to keep multiple windows</i> open...[WITHIN THE HOST WINDOW].... <i>>>---which <b>apparently</b> have to be shut down FIRST BEFOREHAND, before the main window is closed, unless you've opted in preferences you wanna shut down multiple windows in one click is it ???---<<</i><br><br><br><br>
Else wise keeping some (enclosed) windows open, not wanting to shut certain other ones down WITHIN THE SAME HOST WINDOW that you might want left open ~just takes a bit of discernment and being a bit careful I guess)..........<br><br><br><br>
==================================================<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">OTHER WAYS TO PITCH A WINDOW, like individually, <i>solitaire!!!!</i> etc:</span><br><br><br><br>
ALAS ALSO if not happy surfing more than window in the above fashion, you can instead of course get round that easily by of course having yourself seperate windows entirely by having your different stuff, in different windows in the first place (in literal effect all those would be host windows each one a piece for each thing you want open, as I've decided to call them).My Giddy God, I explain so well <span style="text-decoration:underline;">indeed</span>, haha.
 

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FF WEB ADRESS BAR:<br><br><br><br>
I want now an answer to GENERAL PLACEMENT of it >> HOW TO MOVE IT TO WHEREVER I like, AND HOW TO EXTEND it, so to move and extend! HOW DO I???<br><br><br><br>
Ok, now I've given a load of feedback, I won't feel so bad if I pester somebody or other.. for things like how this or how that..<br><br><br><ul><li>?<br><br><br></li>
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Guess I'll spare asking other stuff.... for later <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blank.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":|">
 

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Ok, now I've given a load of feedback, I won't feel so bad if I pester somebody or other.. for things like how this or how that..<br><br><br><ul><li>?<br></li>
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Guess I'll spare asking other stuff for later though <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blank.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":|"><br><br><br><br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">FF WEB ADRESS BAR:</span></b> I just want the answer to this for now}}<br><br>
I want now an answer to GENERAL PLACEMENT of it >> How To MOVE It To *wherever* I like, AND HOW TO EXTEND it,<br><br>
so to move and extend! HOW DO I???
 

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<span style="font-size:medium;">I've renamed this thread everybody, as my chipper (lol) little celebration of me having firefox, has now turned toward practicalities. See OP for the name change.</span>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Red</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Yeah, that's the problem. FF doesn't always fully close. You either have to go into the task manager and kill it, or reboot. A well documented bug in FF, not the OS.</div>
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I would have thought that when an application was sent a kill signal that the operating system should take over at that point and make sure it happens.
 
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