[compassionate1]

<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/07/oven.puppy.ap/index.html" target="_blank">Article at cnn.com.</a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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A man who pleaded guilty to putting his wife's puppy in a 200-degree oven, crippling it, was sentenced Monday to six months in jail.<br><br><br><br>
Third District Judge William Barrett ordered Marc Christopher Vincent, 36, to serve six months in jail without the chance of early release. He must also pay a $500 fine and $986 in veterinary bills for the dog.<br></div>
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Six Months isn't enough. It's better than nothing though.....<br><br><br><br>
I hope he gets some real nice treatment in jail. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sneaky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":shifty:"> Hey Marc, don't drop the soap!

 

[GhostUser]

I wonder what he would get if he put another human in the oven.<br><br><br><br>
I hope he gets the special jail experience, as well. Maybe he'll think twice in the future about picking on someone who's vulnerable. (Meaning, he will probably get "picked on" in jail for his vulnerability.. and also, don't other jailmates look down on people who are jailed for "lesser crimes." ex: murder vs. theft. I am not calling this a lesser crime, just how it is viewed in criminals' minds.)<br><br><br><br>
^ I just read that, and I don't think it's making a lot of sense. I just woke up from a 3 hour nap, gimmie a break. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[Eclipse]

*claps hands* in approval (of the jail sentence, not the live puppy cooking).

 

[GanyGreenBean]

Oh my. Thats horrible. Why would he do that? That's horrible. I hope he gets his just rewards.

 

[compassionate1]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>veggiejanie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I wonder what he would get if he put another human in the oven.<br></div>
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My thoughts exactly.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I hope he gets the special jail experience, as well. Maybe he'll think twice in the future about picking on someone who's vulnerable. (Meaning, he will probably get "picked on" in jail for his vulnerability.. and also, don't other jailmates look down on people who are jailed for "lesser crimes." ex: murder vs. theft. I am not calling this a lesser crime, just how it is viewed in criminals' minds.)<br><br><br><br>
^ I just read that, and I don't think it's making a lot of sense. I just woke up from a 3 hour nap, gimmie a break. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""></div>
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I know what you're saying. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> I know that generally is true for child molesters and such, not sure about animal cruely perpetrators. Either way, you'd have to think some of the harder criminals are not going to have much respect for him.

 

[Eclipse]

Given there's so much apathy for animal cruelty among law abiding people, I doubt this person would have any trouble in jail.

 

[Alli]

Why, just why would someone take advantage of the innocence of a <i>puppy</i>?<br><br><br><br>
I, too, hope that he learns from his sentence in prison. But I don't understand why animal cruelty sentences aren't longer. Six months? If someone puts a live puppy in an oven, what stops them from doing the same to a baby or a small child (not meaning that they're more important, but given that's all people care about now)?

 

[Seb_0810]

They should put HIM in an oven four times as hot.

 

[GhostUser]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>compassionate1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
My thoughts exactly.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
I know what you're saying. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> I know that generally is true for child molesters and such, not sure about animal cruely perpetrators. Either way, you'd have to think some of the harder criminals are not going to have much respect for him.</div>
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I'm glad someone understands me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[shaved_women]

I hope he doesn't have any lube for the six months he's in there....

 

[GhostUser]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>veggiejanie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I wonder what he would get if he put another human in the oven.<br><br><br></div>
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we are sure to find that out after he gets out- people like him just escalate from animals to humans.<br><br><br><br>
that being said, i'll like to join to line to kick this guy in the face repeatedly really really hard.

 

[Katt Fink]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>shaved_women</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I hope he doesn't have any lube for the six months he's in there....</div>
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and that the soap is extra slippery...<br><br><br><br>
The headline <i>should</i> read "Man put in oven for putting dog in oven."

 

[compassionate1]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Alli</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Why, just why would someone take advantage of the innocence of a <i>puppy</i>?<br><br><br><br>
I, too, hope that he learns from his sentence in prison. But I don't understand why animal cruelty sentences aren't longer. Six months? If someone puts a live puppy in an oven, what stops them from doing the same to a baby or a small child (not meaning that they're more important, but given that's all people care about now)?</div>
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Change happens slowly. But 50 years ago would he have gotten even 1 month?<br><br><br><br>
I don't even like the "it means they will move on to abusing humans" argument (though it <i>is</i> true). The overall point is that abusing these vulnerable animals is <i>wrong in and of itself</i>, whether it leads to humans or not.

 

[GhostUser]

^^^ agreed, i didn't mean to make it sound otherwise.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br><br><br>
in some ways i think it's worse to abuse an animal- they are the true innocents. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[compassionate1]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>purrpelle</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
^^^ agreed, i didn't mean to make it sound otherwise.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br><br><br>
in some ways i think it's worse to abuse an animal- they are the true innocents. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""></div>
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<br><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> totally agree. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br>
And my comments weren't necessarily pointed at you, more just getting it off my (well-toned) chest. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[GhostUser]

<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>compassionate1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> totally agree. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br>
And my comments weren't necessarily pointed at you, more just getting it off my (well-toned) chest. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""></div>
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tease.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[Nishani]

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that being said, i'll like to join to line to kick this guy in the face repeatedly really really hard.</div>
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to lower myself to his level of thinking.

 

[GhostUser]

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Pixelle</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to lower myself to his level of thinking.</div>
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i would. what's good for the goose.....<br><br><br><br>
sometimes it's the only language those kind of people understand.

 

[vggiegirl]

Oh God. I just can 't stand hearing this stuff anymore <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">

 

[troub]

But the cops who arrested him and the judge who convicted him are going to put a turkey in the oven in a few short weeks.<br><br><br><br>
The dairy in their taters caused more suffering then a single dog in an oven for a few minutes.<br><br><br><br>
The egg in the pie caused more animals to die then a single dog in an oven for a few minutes.<br><br><br><br>
I mean, maybe he was just hungry? Animals are meat right? Just here for our amusement? To do as we please with? What about all the dogs in Iams laboratories right now? No lawsuits against them? They are dogs... being tortured, so how come no one is going to jail for them?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
The inconsistency of it all is so stupid.