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Revlon, Almay. (I think they're pretty much the same company.. or apart of one another).

The products are really good, and most of the stuff that I emailed and asked about were vegan, except for my eye shadow which had silk worms or something.
 

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Just give up make up. Since I've been vegan I have not worn makeup, it hasn't been too hard for me.

Besides most make up companies perpepuate messed up gender roles.
I'm going to disagree with you on the whole gender role thing. It is scientifically proven that men and women's brains function differently; why shouldn't they behave differently?
 

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I'm going to disagree with you on the whole gender role thing. It is scientifically proven that men and women's brains function differently; why shouldn't they behave differently?
I didn't suggest that people act the same. That is silly, regardless of your sex.

What I did suggest is that our society systematically puts pressure on women to act, dress, eat, and so on a certain way that puts them, in the eyes of society, in a different place then men. This opens the door for unethical discrimination and prejudice.

Some of these pressures come from make up corporations that, in a sense, tell women what to paint on their face to make them a "real" woman, or whatever.

People can be individuals and act how they want without society telling all women to paint their face.
 

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Some of these pressures come from make up corporations that, in a sense, tell women what to paint on their face to make them a "real" woman, or whatever.

People can be individuals and act how they want without society telling all women to paint their face.
Agreed.

But I think one can wear makeup if one wants - saying that people should give up makeup is also a way of restricting their expression - one should just be aware of the political aspect you highlighted.
 

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Finding make-up that's not tested on animals is sketchy at best. Many companies don't test on animals, but most if not all the raw materials were already tested on animals so they themselves don't have to. It's so hard to look that deeply into the roots of things, so I don't wear make-up (I have other reasons, but that plays a big part). If you're really concerned about no animal testing at all, it's going to be remarkably hard, if not impossable to find anything. Sorry.
 

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Agreed.

But I think one can wear makeup if one wants - saying that people should give up makeup is also a way of restricting their expression - one should just be aware of the political aspect you highlighted.
I agree, but I find it kind of difficult to determine if someone is truly making a choice or is being heavily influence. This is true for a lot more than just make up. I would never seriously suggest people aren't allowed or be forced to not wear make up.
 

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If you're really concerned about no animal testing at all, it's going to be remarkably hard, if not impossable to find anything. Sorry.
I think that's ridiculous to say. Just because an ingredient was tested 30 years ago by some company that's no longer in business doesn't mean that since Company X uses that ingredient they're not vegan.
 

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Check out a book by Paula Begoun called "Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me." In it are reviews of hundreds, if not thousands of products. Also, at the end, is a list that tells where the different companies stand on animal testing and also which ones don't clearly give the information. Your local library should have the book. I highly recommend it.
 

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I think that's ridiculous to say. Just because an ingredient was tested 30 years ago by some company that's no longer in business doesn't mean that since Company X uses that ingredient they're not vegan.
agreed.

here's Peta's list of companies that do and don't test on animals: http://caringconsumer.com/resources_companies.asp
 
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