Language Scholars! Can you translate this? :)

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

I purchased an antique sword and it has this written on the blade: 
Ladivs Eoris 
and 
Inovs Davor 
I ran it through a couple online translators with no luck- i don't even know what language it is in or if the "v" is actually a "u" 
any thoughts anyone? 
thanks in advance, VB!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">

cftwo · Jul 14, 2006

It sure doesn't look like French, German, or Greek. My first thought was Latin (with the v's really being u's), but I'm afraid my Latin isn't good enough to translate it on the fly, and there are some letter combinations in the 2nd phrase which are not characteristic of Latin. Do you know where the sword is from or how old it is?

Diana · Jul 14, 2006

It's not Ladivs. It's Ladius. Ladius means "sword" in Latin. Eoris would be a name, I think. 
Inous was a Greek Goddess.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

<a href="http://www.bladeseller.com/Historical/San%20Fernando.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bladeseller.com/Historica...20Fernando.htm</a> 
It is apparently Latin.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

this is what i found for Eoris so far but i'm confused 
e PREFIX 
- out, away from; beyond; completely; 
or.is V 3 1 PRES ACTIVE IND 2 S 
oro, orere, -, - V [EXXEX] Later uncommon 
burn;

troub · Jul 14, 2006

sexy sword btw.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

and for Ladius, : 
Word mod d/t 
An internal 'd' might be rendered by 't' 
lati.us ADJ 1 1 NOM S N COMP 
lati.us ADJ 1 1 VOC S N COMP 
lati.us ADJ 1 1 ACC S N COMP 
latus, lata -um, latior -or -us, latissimus -a -um ADJ [XXXAX] 
wide, broad; spacious, extensive; 
lati.us ADJ 1 1 NOM S M POS 
Latius, Latia, Latium ADJ [XXICO] 
Latin; of Latium (central Italy in cluding Rome, Italy); Roman; Italian;

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

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sexy sword btw.</div>
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It's a man's sword and way to big for me (I'm only 5' 2") but yeah, it's hot.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

and for Davor: 
Word mod v/b 
An internal 'v' might be rendered by 'b' 
d.abor V 1 1 FUT PASSIVE IND 1 S 
do, dare, dedi, datus V TRANS [XXXAO] 
give; dedicate; sell; pay; grant/bestow/impart/offer/lend; devote; allow; make; 
surrender/give over; send to die; ascribe/attribute; give birth/produce; utter;

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

so i have all these words, now what? Inous or Inovs is not found.

troub · Jul 14, 2006

davor is german for "before it" 
but thats the only one that comes up as german. 
duno

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

but this says it's Latin: 
and for Davor: 
Word mod v/b 
An internal 'v' might be rendered by 'b' 
d.abor V 1 1 FUT PASSIVE IND 1 S 
do, dare, dedi, datus V TRANS [XXXAO] 
give; dedicate; sell; pay; grant/bestow/impart/offer/lend; devote; allow; make; 
surrender/give over; send to die; ascribe/attribute; give birth/produce; utter;

troub · Jul 14, 2006

the last sword i bought was <a href="http://www.knifeworks.com/ProductImages/united/uc1264.jpg" target="_blank">this short sword</a> a couple years ago. I also have <a href="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/niliak/mwa_narsil.jpg" target="_blank">Narsil.</a>

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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I hate not knowing things. It will annoy me to no end.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

that's nice! 
I will take pics of my boot and belt knives. my belt knife has real silver work on it.I do want a custom sword but I want it sharp, so I won't be able to fight with it in the skits but still.

troub · Jul 14, 2006

^^diana said ^^ that Ladius Eoris was saying Sword: Eoris. as in eoris was its name. seems plausable. 
and if davor means "give birth/produce" or "ascribe/attribute". 
It could be, which is my best guess: Eoris, Sword of Inous 
which could be the swords owner, or its place of origin.

troub · Jul 14, 2006

I assumed this was a rapier at first, since your miss pirate and all lol. 
then again i have 3 swords and a dagger, and not one katana

Brandon · Jul 14, 2006

<a href="http://www.toledosword.com/pr/GRHK542TS.html#GRHK542" target="_blank">http://www.toledosword.com/pr/GRHK542TS.html#GRHK542</a> 
That is my sword. It's supposedly a dragon-slayer sword. I don't slay anything, except for zombies if I ever get the chance. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="

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My sword's inscription reads "falquinencala" which I was told means "Sword of Light" in elvish.

GhostUser · Jul 14, 2006

i have a cutlass for my pirate costume LOL 
this is for when I want to be Red Sonia. 
I think Diana's mistaken- I couldn't find anything on sword=ladius.

Finlay · Jul 14, 2006

There's a neat mystery. It certainly looks like Latin, but then again... 
I have an interest in Medieval Latin, but as I won't be able to look anything up since I'm going on vacation on Monday (and the library I'd go to to figure this out isn't open in the weekend), I'll post my thoughts and hope I'll be of some use. Also, I've had some wine, so bear with me: 
- Ferdinand III reigned 1217-1255. 
- Gladius is Latin for sword, if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps the 'g' was dropped over time in Spain, but I'd have to be in the library to verify. The other option would be that it indeed is a comparative of latus ('the broader ...'). 
- Eoris sounds like a pronomen, but cannot be a pronomen (pronoun), under normal circumstances. If it were a proper name, it'd probably be genitivus singularis ('of [...]'). Other options are certainly possible, but I'd need a proper medieval latin dictionary, again. 
- Dabor means, 'I will be given'.

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