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Be sure to check out the Q & A with Dem pres hopeful Dennis Kucinich in This month's VegNews. He is a progressive candidate- and he's vegan!<br><br><br><br><a href="http://vegnews.com/current_issue.html" target="_blank">http://vegnews.com/current_issue.html</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://kucinich.us/issues/rightsanimal.php" target="_blank">http://kucinich.us/issues/rightsanimal.php</a>
 

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It is sad to see even vegan/vegetarians saying Dennis is not electable. As anyone who worked on his previous campaign knows, he has been blacklisted by mainstream media and derided by them when they do mention his name. The big problem is that most people believe this.<br><br>
When everyone who believes Dennis is the best candidate does their fair share to promote his Presidential run, he will quickly become electable.
 

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I'd have voted for him in 2004 if he was on our primary ballot, but no way I'm voting for him in 2008. Not when there are so many better candidates like Obama who stand a much better chance at winning.
 

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If you're interested in learning more, this was an excellent interview w/ him. No mention of being vegan here--but I think that is testament to his concienciousness.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/28/1335231&mode=thread&tid=25" target="_blank">http://www.democracynow.org/article....=thread&tid=25</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>HandcuffedAngel</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Why isn't he "electable"?</div>
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Are you being disingenuous here?<br><br><br><br>
I'm glad I voted for him in the primaries in 04, but by then Kerry had already locked up the nomination.
 

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Are you being disingenuous here?</div>
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Nope. I'm a politics idiot.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know diddly squat about anything politics and I've never voted before so I'm just trying to get in the groove.
 

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Nope. I'm a politics idiot.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know diddly squat about anything politics and I've never voted before so I'm just trying to get in the groove.</div>
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Well all right den. Kucinich is considered unelectable because he takes a left stance on most if not all issues, and presidential candidates, in order to be seen as viable, have to appeal to moderates and independents. He's too "radical" for some (see: his proposed Dept. of the Peace). If a candidate can't do that, the fundraising dollars will not come his or her way. And considering a fat bankroll is a necessity for a serious campaign, it makes him pretty well marginalized.<br><br><br><br>
He's doing a fine job as a congressman, but his run is more symbolic and about getting niche voters (like a handful of genuinely leftist voters) involved in the process as well as bringing up issues that the contenders might gloss over.
 

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Moreover, his poor performance as mayor of Cleveland raises questions about his qualifcations as an executive.
 

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I would say that it is his personality first, then his politics, that makes him lack appeal to the majority of American voters. He is a brilliant man, and a dedicated environmentalist/peace activist/animal rights activist but he lacks the charisma needed to appeal to a broad population. We hold him in high regard because he wants to fight for what we believe in, and I admire the man for that. But the general American public isn't ready for a leader who wants to make a "Department of Peace". Nominating him would, sadly, ensure a Republican victory in 2008.<br><br><br><br>
Honestly, I'm still hoping that Al Gore, at the right time, jumps into the ring. If he ends up in the White House he could appoint pro-veg people to run the FDA, since a veg diet is indeed the greenest diet.
 

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Honestly, I'm still hoping that Al Gore, at the right time, jumps into the ring. If he ends up in the White House he could appoint pro-veg people to run the FDA, since a veg diet is indeed the greenest diet.</div>
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Do you think Gore would do this. I don't think he even mentioned the meat industry in <i>An Inconvinient Truth</i>, did he?
 

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Do you think Gore would do this. I don't think he even mentioned the meat industry in <i>An Inconvinient Truth</i>, did he?</div>
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He did not mention the connections in the movie. I do believe, however, that we can greatly influence his policy with a good publicity campaign on meat consumption and the environment. Of course since we're dealing with the whole electorate, he wouldn't go as far as say that everyone should be a vegetarian, but I could definitely see him championing a "less meat the better" policy for combatting global warming.<br><br><br><br>
And of course it wouldn't be just him, it would be his administration too. And I would think that an environmentalist in charge of the FDA would promote a greener diet for the American which could range from light meat consumption to a vegan one.<br><br><br><br>
The first step is always the hardest, right? Even if less meat consumption is even considered by the next administration as a method for combatting climate change and helping the environment, we can always build on whatever reforms are made, provided that they are in our favor. And eventually, we can become a more compassionate and greener society.
 

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Do you think Gore would do this. I don't think he even mentioned the meat industry in <i>An Inconvinient Truth</i>, did he?</div>
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I don't remember it being mentioned in the movie, but it is briefly mentioned on the web site.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/whatyoucando/index4.html" target="_blank">http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeact...do/index4.html</a><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Eat less meat<br><br>
Methane is the second most significant greenhouse gas and cows are one of the greatest methane emitters. Their grassy diet and multiple stomachs cause them to produce methane, which they exhale with every breath.</div>
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I know I'm being a starry-eyed dreamer, but I sometimes like to imagine what it would be like to have Gore in the White House with Kucinich as Vice President. I know it's highly unlikely but....
 

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I know I'm being a starry-eyed dreamer, but I sometimes like to imagine what it would be like to have Gore in the White House with Kucinich as Vice President. I know it's highly unlikely but....</div>
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That would be... paradise!
 

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I don't remember it being mentioned in the movie, but it is briefly mentioned on the web site.</div>
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I didn't realize that. When I watched the movie a while ago I was dissapointed that the meat industry wasn't mentioned. I'm glad that he has the issue on his website. That means that if he did run then there could definitely be some pro veg influence on the FDA.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I know I'm being a starry-eyed dreamer, but I sometimes like to imagine what it would be like to have Gore in the White House with Kucinich as Vice President. I know it's highly unlikely but....</div>
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That would be a dream come true.<br><br><br><br>
It's a bummer about Kucinich. I remember showing his website to my boyfirend a while ago and his immediate reaction was "He seems like a good candidate, too bad nobody will vote for him."
 

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The first step is always the hardest, right? Even if less meat consumption is even considered by the next administration as a method for combatting climate change and helping the environment, we can always build on whatever reforms are made, provided that they are in our favor. And eventually, we can become a more compassionate and greener society.</div>
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Point well taken!
 

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I think that the problem with voting for Kucinich is that (ignoring the views that people will either love or hate) nothing he says sounds like he will carry through on it. It all sounds too good to be true, especially after what happened when he was mayor. But it would be great if it was true, and he got elected!
 
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